Op 9 dec 2009, om 05:38 heeft David Recordon het volgende geschreven:

> Scientifically, we should actually put some effort into looking at
> sign in pages again. :)
How do you mean?


> 
> --David
> 
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Jonathan Coffman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, beyond the email discussion below what are the primary
>> metadata needs around the other major (PoCo) fields?
>> Speaking to the use-cases I work off of here at PBS, I'm primarily concerned
>> about emails being verified (and a signup date is also useful) and am most
>> inclined to trust the OP (especially if it were a white-listed or otherwise
>> vetted iDP).
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
>> 
>> Is it worth looking at how Facebook handles the passing of profile data? Or
>> is their architecture/use case different?
>> 
>> http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Users.getInfo
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Breno de Medeiros <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM, John Panzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> For "one-time" URLs, you'd probably want to allow for retries for a
>>>> short
>>>> period (or just allow it to be accessed for say 5m) which would have
>>>> approximately the same level of protection.
>>>> You could also imagine long-lived capabilities along the lines of OAuth
>>>> tokens that allow RPs to repeatedly refresh the data as needed.  (Better
>>>> of
>>>> course if they can subscribe to changes, but that's an implementation
>>>> detail
>>>> and definitely a separate spec.)
>>>> Given that AX already supports requesting URL-valued data (e.g., profile
>>>> photos) I think this just comes down to defining a fairly complicated
>>>> data
>>>> type for AX and passing a URL around.
>>> 
>>> A more lightweight alternative is to adopt an 'artifact' mode where
>>> most of the OpenID assertion (request and response) can be passed in
>>> the backchannel. That is a bit more difficult to implement but easier
>>> to spec (because the existing URLs can be used) and more general
>>> (compacts all extensions, not only AX).
>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> John Panzer / Google
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Peter Watkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 10:32:12AM -0800, John Panzer wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> provide to RPs.  If you send an endpoint URL to the RP instead of the
>>>>>> information itself, the RP can then retrieve it via a backchannel
>>>>>> (and
>>>>>> cache
>>>>>> it).  If you have private data, use a capability URL with a token
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> allows read-only access.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Exactly. OpenID requests and responses are very chatty, and backchannel
>>>>> URLs could be an easy way to get around the 2k GET limit (the cost of
>>>>> course being additional time needed to make the additional HTTP
>>>>> requests).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't see any reason for backchannel URLs to be requested multiple
>>>>> times,
>>>>> so in addition to a request or response using strongly random nonces in
>>>>> the backchannel URLs, the backchannel URLs should be very short-lived,
>>>>> probably each side "SHOULD" allow a URL to be requested only once, and
>>>>> throw a 403/404 for subsequent requests.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any draft of AX using backchannel URLs?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Peter
>>>> 
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