Yes,  The point being it is more than just an extension.

John B.
On 2010-02-05, at 3:34 PM, Paul Madsen wrote:

> Are there not 2 pieces 1) an extension to carry the artifact and 2) a new 
> binding for dereferencing
> 
> paul 
> 
> On 2/5/2010 11:01 AM, John Bradley wrote:
>> 
>> This creates a new direct message type.   I thought extensions were 
>> extending the existing messages.
>> 
>> It is probably a grey area.
>> 
>> Other protocols consider this to be a separate protocol binding rather than 
>> an extension of the redirect or POST binding.
>> 
>> John B.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2010-02-05, at 12:23 PM, David Recordon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Nat,
>>> Shouldn't this be considered an extension?
>>> 
>>> --David
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Nat Sakimura <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> OpenID Artifact Binding Working Group
>>> Charter Proposal
>>> In accordance with the OpenID Foundation IPR policies and procedures this 
>>> note proposes the formation of a new working group chartered to produce an 
>>> OpenID specification. As per Section 4.1 of the Policies, the proposed 
>>> charter is below.
>>> I. Name
>>> Artifact Binding Working Group (AB)
>>> II. Statement of Purpose
>>> Produce a binding of OpenID requests and response (assertion) that uses 
>>> direct communication for main payload and indirect communication for a 
>>> small reference data called Artifact to cope with long URL limits 
>>> experienced by man
>>> III. Scope
>>> Create the Artifact Binding to support the identified needs. Currently 
>>> identified: 
>>> Cope with long url problem, especially for mobile browsers. 
>>> Cope with the security problems of non-encrypted payload to go through the 
>>> user agents which may act as a man-in-the-middle. 
>>> IV. Specifications
>>> OpenID Artifact Binding 1.0
>>> V. Anticipated audience
>>> All those interested in using OpenID in mobile and other constrained 
>>> browser and server elements. 
>>> VI. Language of business
>>> English.
>>> VII. Method of work
>>> Mailing list discussion. Posting of intermediate drafts in the OpenID Wiki. 
>>> Virtual conferencing on an ad-hoc basis.
>>> VIII. Basis for completion of the activity
>>> The Artifact Binding 1.0 spec made final.
>>> Background Information
>>> I. Related Work
>>> SAML Artifact Binding
>>> OAuth
>>> Wrap
>>> Contract Exchange
>>> II. Initial Membership
>>> Breno de Medeiros, [email protected]. Google, Inc. 
>>> Hideki Nara, [email protected], Tact Communications
>>> Nat Sakimura, [email protected], Nomura Research Institute, Ltd.  
>>> (editor)
>>> John Bradley, [email protected]
>>> Allen Tom, [email protected], Yahoo!
>>> Will Norris, [email protected]
>>> III. Expected contribution
>>>  
>>> Draft: OpenID Artifact Binding 1.0 - Draft 01, 
>>> http://www.sakimura.org/specs/ab/1.0/
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Nat Sakimura (=nat)
>>> http://www.sakimura.org/en/
>>> http://twitter.com/_nat_en
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