A fundamental premise of Webfinger is that there are a lot of users -- today, probably the majority of the Internet -- who are comfortable with and know their email address (or email like identifier, like a Jabber ID), who have no interest in acquiring an HTTP identifier as well, and in fact an extra HTTP identifier is a hindrance to them using the technology. So, the desire to avoid the HTTP identifier in a user visible context derives from that premise. And a login ID is definitely user visible; it's how you show a user who they're currently logged in as, for example.
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Paul E. Jones <[email protected]>wrote: > John, > > > > Note that this means the user would not be logged in as [email protected], but > instead as https://www.google.com/profiles/3234234234234234. (Since step > 6 doesn't know anything about steps 1-5.) I think this has obvious > usability issues. > > > > Note that the OP cannot return acct:[email protected] <acct%[email protected]>as > the claimed_id because the claimed_id has to be an openid, and under this > proposal acct:[email protected] <acct%[email protected]> isn't an OpenID. So > the RP _might_ be able to retain both the entered (pre-normalized) > identifier and the final claimed_id, and display the former to the user and > the user's friends, but it seems complicated and unwieldy. > > > > I’m not really sure what to do about the fact that the *real* OpenID > identifier is something nearly impossible to remember. Perhaps one might > argue that “that’s not the way it’s supposed to be.” :-) Shouldn’t the > OpenID ID’s – even as HTTP(S) URIs – still be somewhat memorable? That said, > does it really matter? If the user always logs in with an email ID that is > converted using Webfinger into the real OpenID ID, the process is always the > same. > > > > I would strongly suggest not trying to hide the OpenID ID or make it hard > to remember. Why not https://openid.google.com/bob? That’s likely easier > to remember. So, is your concern with the user having to potentially > remember two IDs, or the fact that one is impossible to remember? :-) > > > > Paul > > > > >
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