Honestly, I would call your answers "beating around the bush". Having said
that I must also admit that i am not a person as smart as you are. So let us
not take this argument forward, and end it here, or you personally may post
an answer for one last time.

I mean, I have asked you a question, and you have been humble enough to
reply, and I think we should leave the judgement to everyone else.

Thank You
Santosh


On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:10 AM, David Recordon <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Santosh Rajan <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Couple of questions I have.
>>
>> 1) If "OpeniD Connect" is about OAuth 2.0 why use the name OpenID at all?
>> What has OpenID got to do with OAuth 2.0? Why not call it "OAuth Connect"?
>>
>
> To me, OpenID is about identity and OAuth is about authorization. When we
> built OpenID we had Yadis for discovery which we built on top of, but didn't
> have another technology for authorization. This meant that we created our
> own mechanism around how the redirects happen, parameters are encoded, and
> the signatures generated and verified.
>
> Today we can replace all of that with OAuth 2.0. So OAuth builds on top of
> HTTP, SSL, HMAC, etc which we can directly take advantage of.
>
>
>
>> 2) I thought OpenID was about "Federated Identity". On the other hand
>> OAuth 2.0 is about "Delegated Identity". Are you dumping the idea of
>> "Federated Identity" once and for all for  OpenID?
>>
>
> OpenID Connect is still about decentralized identity. "Federated Identity"
> means one (or a small number) of providers within a previously agreed upon
> circle of trust. One of the key things this proposal adds to OAuth 2.0 is
> the ability to have a client the server has never heard of before make an
> OpenID request. See http://openidconnect.com/#associations.
>
>
>
>>
>> 3) My apologies for asking such blunt questions. I will appreciate your
>> answers for this. And if you have a good answer I will be your no 1
>> supporter.
>>
>
> No problem, as I said this is really meant to help get the conversation
> going again!
>
> --David
>
>
> Thank you so much,
>> Santosh
>>
>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:27 AM, David Recordon <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> The past few months I've had a bunch of one on one conversations with a
>>> lot of different people – including many of folks on this list – about ways
>>> to build a future version of OpenID on top of OAuth 2.0. Back in March when
>>> I wrote a draft of OAuth 2.0 I mentioned it as one of my future goals as
>>> well (http://daveman692.livejournal.com/349384.html).
>>>
>>> Basically moving us to where there's a true technology stack of TCP/IP ->
>>> HTTP -> SSL -> OAuth 2.0 -> OpenID -> (all sorts of awesome APIs). Not just
>>> modernizing the technology, but also focusing on solving a few of the key
>>> "product" issues we hear time and time again.
>>>
>>> I took the past few days to write down a lot of these ideas and glue them
>>> together. Talked with Chris Messina who thought it was an interesting idea
>>> and decided to dub it "OpenID Connect" (see
>>> http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2010/01/04/openid-connect/). And thanks to
>>> Eran Hammer-Lahav and Joseph Smarr for some help writing bits of it!
>>>
>>> So, a modest proposal that I hope gets the conversation going again.
>>> http://openidconnect.com/
>>>
>>> --David
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://hi.im/santosh
>>
>>
>>
>


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