I don't see what age has anything to do with technical discussions (which is what this list is meant for).
On May 18, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Santosh Rajan <santra...@gmail.com> wrote: > You know something, "James A Michener" once said "All men above forty are > stupid". Let me admit that I turned 50 in the month of march 2010. > > How old are you "Phillip Hallam-Baker"? > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hal...@gmail.com> > wrote: > To me the reason the problem goes beyond simply authentication + > attributes is that we are providing a resolution mechanism for Web > 'principals' identified through consistent, machine readable, human > friendly identifiers. > > So 'Phillip Hallam-Baker' is not a useful identifier in this case as > even though this example is unique, the class of identifiers it is a > member of are not unique and thus not useful as machine readable > identifiers. Contrawise any identifier of the form '=292rj239e!' might > be machine readable in the right circumstances but certainly isn't > human friendly. > > > A principal here is most often going to be a Web User but could in > certain circumstances be a computer process or agent running on a > machine or could be some abstract corporate entity. > > A principal may be an individual or may be an individual acting in a > specific role. So f...@gmail.com and f...@google.com might be the > exact same person but respond differently due to the fact that in one > role he may be acting in a corporate capacity. > > A principal might even by a physical location such as a building. > malden#friendlies.com might be the Friendlies restaurant at Malden. > > > A resolution of a principal may mean: > > * Authenticating an interaction with the principal > * An email message > * A log in attempt > * A permission that has been granted by Principal A to Principal B > * Initiating an interaction with the principal > * An email message > * An instant message > * Making a reference to the principal > * Asserting that the principal initiated a communication > * Asserting that the principal has a property > * Asserting that principal A is the source of assertion B > concerning principal C > > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:48 AM, SitG Admin > <sysad...@shadowsinthegarden.com> wrote: > >> My view is that we should stop talking about 'identity' all together. > >> We should instead define the range of problems we want to solve as use > >> cases and go solve them. Identity is too much of an abstraction, it > >> can stand for anything. > > > > +1 to targeting problems rather than ideals (at that layer). > > > > The abstraction (of identity) is this community's strength and weakness; it > > names the Purpose that brings everyone together, and it calls in people from > > all over who may be able to contribute something. This concentration of > > diverse ideas, though, doesn't create a single harmonious overlap of equally > > distributed strength; there are outliers, ideas that aren't shared much by > > others here. The two are opposite sides of the same coin. > > > > To restate this in a slightly different way, it's a popularity contest: none > > of us can decide what idea will see the most adoption, since none of us can > > make those decisions for everyone else. Nearly any idea is probably going to > > be seen as a bad one by *some* person in the group (Santosh helps make > > statistics come *true*!), and we should each be prepared to occasionally > > bite the bullet and accept that it's *our* turn to be left out in the cold. > > (Then leave our unpopular ideas behind and come in for a warm meal and > > whatever work has got so many members of the community in the commons > > house.) > > > > -Shade > > > > > > -- > Website: http://hallambaker.com/ > _______________________________________________ > specs mailing list > sp...@lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs > > > > -- > http://hi.im/santosh > > > _______________________________________________ > specs mailing list > sp...@lists.openid.net > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-specs
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