Hello,

My comment was simply to frame the direction of travel in todays changing environment. When the question is considered everyone must have a

Common shared vision

Road map to acheive that

Focus upon where that road map is

I am very happy if this common relationship can be agreed . My point is that a frame of reference is very important to understand the people of their relationships so a common direction can be forged.

Peter


On 18/05/2017 20:55, Guenther Ernst Alka wrote:
hello Peter

Thank you for your comment.
You have a better insight view into communities and distributions than I.
My view is mostly a storage related user view and from that pure Illumos
features are ok. A GUI or LX zones are really nice but not essential and no one
would hinder to add LX to OI or Mate to OmniOS.

I mainly want to trust a distribution to survive and to care about bugs.
Currently we have a OmniOS LTS and the next one is due 2019.
Until then we need a OmniOS to maintain the current LTS.

But the question on what the next OmniOS is based onto must be
answered now, not in two years or when work is mostly done .
The future of OmniOS as a stable free Illumos is insecure enough.

best regards

Gea


Am 18.05.2017 um 20:21 schrieb Peter Tribble:
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Guenther Alka <g...@napp-it.org> wrote:

There are many users who want exact these OmniOS features not available in
OI.
The discussion now is if such an effort should be based on the current
OmniOS bloody
or can be based on a common development effort together with the OI
community.

I want the discussion going into a common future as I fear that a new
separate OmniOS community effort will only weaken Illumos/OI and cannot
survive in the long term.  My hope is that a stronger OI/OmniOS is the
outcome instead where OmniOS is a stable add-on feature for OI snapshots.

I don't think that's viable, at least in the short term. OmniOS has a
completely different ethos to OI, and there's a reason people chose
one distro or the other.

Attempting to force both requirements out of a single distro will likely
mean that you end up satisfying neither set of users, while making it
much harder for maintainers who have to support both sets of users.

Longer term is a slightly different picture. It's unlikely that OmniOS
will continue to diverge from illumos, and I would like to see the
features backported into illumos proper. Once that's done it makes
more sense to think about sharing, because at least you then have
a common illumos codebase.


Am 18.05.2017 um 11:24 schrieb Alexander Pyhalov:

On 05/18/17 12:15 PM, Guenther Alka wrote:

News about OmniOS and Discuss about free Illumos distributions and
future OmniOS/OI options

I have started a thread in a popular forum with a strong ZFS focus to
discuss this
also with regular users outside the maillists.

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/omnios-151
022-long-term-stable.14367/page-2

Hi.
So far, as I understand, OmniOS developers choose to support existing
infrastructure and build systems and there's no development on merging OI and OmniOS code base. Without OmniOS developers interested in this, this
talk is useless.


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