Hi Bob,

You know, that might be a good idea for me to look into to see how it might
be done as this is really just for a minimal size Kiosk type application so
I do not think that I need a window manager, and maybe not even a display
manager but I am not sure about that part.

I am particularly interested in your response part:

"
In the past I did work on projects
where we had X11 in an embedded device (small PC) and used it without
login management or even a window manager.  It worked just fine
although I did need to re-define the default X11 cursor to blank in
order to remove all evidence that X11 was used
"
This could be viewed as a Kiosk application that is to be hosted on illumos
which could be a stripped down Openindiana or built up OmniOS, from a
graphics standpoint.

Any guidance or assistance that you could provide would be greatly
appreciated and hopefully get me going in the right direction.
Cheers,
Lonnie


On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:48 AM Bob Friesenhahn <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Aug 2020, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
> >
> > I basically need to run just one graphics application on the system so I
> do
> > not really need a full blown desktop manager, etc.
>
> Even if you had Wayland, it would likely not save you anything at all.
> In fact, it would increase the resource requirements since Wayland
> rarely appears without X11 support and widgit toolkit ports to native
> Wayland consume a lot of memory (as all updated/modern widgit toolkits
> seem to do).
>
> X11 itself is actually not so large and inefficient as it has been
> made out to be.  Note that X11 is very old and it comes from a time
> when computers had practically no resources as compared to today.
> There was a time when I ran X11 on a system that only had 8MB of RAM.
>
> Your effort is best spent on creating an X11 configuration with a
> light-weight display manager and light-weight window manager.  It is
> even possible to use X11 without either of these and just have it come
> up with a blank screen by default.  In the past I did work on projects
> where we had X11 in an embedded device (small PC) and used it without
> login management or even a window manager.  It worked just fine
> although I did need to re-define the default X11 cursor to blank in
> order to remove all evidence that X11 was used.
>
> If the problem is that the installation package/footprint is too
> large, then create your own package which contains just what you need.
>
> Bob
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