Am 25.02.21 um 19:18 schrieb Carsten Grzemba via openindiana-discuss:
Am 24.02.21 23:44 schrieb "Rolf M. Dietze" <[email protected]>:
Quoting Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss
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In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?, Rolf...:
Hi,
yes, got it running. xdm login, twm as window manager. Fast and
smart:)
As I started up with a text console only, Andreas and Carsten
on this list told me to do a pkg install mate_install and start
the SMF-service for lightdm. With a little nvidia driver update
all worked fine. Since I like fast minimalistik desktops that do
not consume the compute power for windows decorations, I did:
pkg install twm
pkg install xdm
copied th svc-lightdm method to svc-xdm, set it up for xdm, reseted
the xdm-fmri as was installed alongside by pkg install xdm, pointed
it to the freshly createt login-xdm. (guess I could have used the
default anyway, it just starts xdm so:)
I'm glad you found a solution that works, but I think there might
have been an easier way that didn't involve messing with SMF at all.
Lightdm is capable of launching any "session" it knows about. What
exactly a "session" is depends on the desktop environment, but for
the "xterm" failsafe, it's just an xterm.
Sessions are defined in a .desktop text file in /usr/share/xsessions/
The .desktop file format is documented here:
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
Using the 'mate.desktop' and 'xterm.desktop' as examples, someone
that knows TWM well could probably create a twm.desktop, drop it into
/usr/share/xesssions/, and then continue to use lightdm as the login
(rather than XDM), but get it to launch your twm session.
I know that Ubuntu and some other Linux distros that use lightdm have
a twm.desktop configured for their distro. That might also serve as
a useful example.
Either way, if you know how to get twm to "launch" after X is already
running, it's probably a lot easier to just make it a selectable choice
>from Lightdm than it is to create a different SMF.
Hope this helps,
[..]
well yes and no. I do not really like the look and feel of lightdm as so
with the gdm-login, which specially denied me using cde once gnome was
tried out and judged to be to performanceconsuming. Same goes with the
unity stuff and debian as well. I normally use cde-login as I am still
supporting sunray at some places, I love CDE so....
With FreeBSD I came back to xdm as a login manager and configured it to
look as desired, with some scripting around one can dynamically select
the windows manager to start with xdm as well. With that and having an
identical login manager look and feel around FreeBSD-, ubuntu-, debian-
and now the first OI-boxes. It is simply far simpler to just change SMF
than to have a bunch full of differnt login managers on whatever boxes.
For the OI testbox that I set up, OI feels simply great, thanks for all
the work and time put in OI. Next step is bhyve, Stephan Althaus just
posted his experience with that.
Right now I am fiddling with CDE. In fact, sunray on OI works? If, please
give me a pointer, I'd love to put that on an OI box. Is there a newer
firefox than 60.9.0? Firefox could be a show stopper for OI as a desktop
replacement because of the old certificates. Yes sure, I could fence a
more recent version of that power consuming firefox in some newer linux
branded zone. That goes for me, assumingly for most of the readers of that
list, but not for all users I have to support.
I use SunRay on OI since some years and have contribute an install guide on
docs.openindiana.org.
Actually it's still only a PR:
https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-docs/pull/150
If you'll fix the existing conflict, I will integrate it.
Regards,
Andreas
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