I must admit I have a hidden agenda which is that these would be very useful
for CSS. Especially if there was a deriveFont(FontPosture) and
deriveFont(FontWeight).
On Jun 3, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Richard Bair <richard.b...@oracle.com> wrote:
> I agree these would be useful. The reason I filed this particular issue is
> that whenever I'm writing some code it seems like I'm always reaching for
> Font.font(size) and when I don't find it there I have to figure out what to
> pass as the family (it turns out I could have passed null but didn't know it,
> so I had the longer incantation). Having to always derive is also just an
> extra level of oomph that in many cases I don't really want to do.
>
> Unless Font.font(size) is one day going to be "the wrong thing" and by baking
> it in I'm creating a new error mode, I'd just add it as it will add no weight
> and would at least be there when I reach for it. As long as one day it won't
> be "the wrong thing"…
>
> Anyway, if it is going to take more than a few minutes to figure out, best to
> punt on this rather than soak up Felipe's precious time.
>
> Richard
>
> On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:26 AM, David Grieve <david.gri...@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> I would rather see the deriveFont methods, but not as factory methods.
>>
>> public Font deriveFont(double size)
>> public Font deriveFont(String family)
>>
>> The subtle difference being that these wouldn't use "default" sizes or
>> family names but would use whatever the font is to find the closest matching
>> font. If there isn't a close match, then the same font would be returned.
>>
>> e.g.,
>> text.setFont(Font.getDefault().deriveFont(18));
>> and
>> Font myFont = new Font("Verdana", 18);
>> text.setFont(myFont.deriveFont("Comic Sans MS");
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Felipe Heidrich <felipe.heidr...@oracle.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Moving API discussion to the mailing:
>>>
>>> Proposal:
>>> Add:
>>> Font#font(float) - creates new font using default font family
>>> name and given font size
>>> Font#font(String) - creates new font using given font family and
>>> default font size
>>>
>>>
>>> Comments:
>>> Phil Wrote
>>>> I keep having to type this:
>>>> text.setFont(Font.font(Font.getDefault().getFamily(), 81));
>>>> I would prefer just:
>>>> text.setFont(Font.font(81));
>>>> which would use the default font.
>>>
>>> I think that last line was meant to be "default font family".
>>> All the font(..) factory methods are family based and we should
>>> keep it that way.
>>> So the new API Font.font(-81) as specified and implemented here
>>> is using the default family but its not necessarily getting the same
>>> style as the default font. Nor would it inherit any other (theoretical)
>>> attributes of the default font. In practice it'll all work out
>>> the same until the day that some platform has a bold default font
>>> or has something else different about the default font that can't
>>> be communicated solely through family.
>>> So some day we also need to add Font.deriveFont(..).
>>>
>>> Felipe wrote:
>>> Right, the problem you pointed out would be better solved using the derive
>>> pattern:
>>>
>>> Font.getDefault().deriveFont(newSize);
>>>
>>> That said, the two new methods don't exclude the option of adding derive in
>>> the future.
>>> They are consistent with the javadoc, other factory methods, and probably
>>> good enough to make Richard happy for now.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I will let him be the judge for that.
>>>
>>> Personally I would go with the 2 new methods for now and worried about
>>> derive in the future (at which time we can consider the implication of
>>> different style options such as stretch and advance typographic features).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Felipe
>>>
>>
>
