Mono is not Java and does not need the android java class library... Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Am 05.07.2013 um 14:37 schrieb Hervé Girod <herve.gi...@gmail.com>: > I'm with Tobias. Android class library has really stalled a lot compared to > Java, and it wont improve in the future, and sticking to an outdated class > library is not very interesting IMO. > > Beside we don't specifically need Android class library to compile AOT. Mono > work on Android, and it even does not use Android class library. > > Hervé > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 5 juil. 2013, at 13:57, Niklas Therning <nik...@therning.org> wrote: > >> Even the latest version of Android are missing these classes and Dalvik >> (the VM in Android) doesn't support invokedynamic so a backport is >> required, not just for RoboVM. I managed to get Ensemble working yesterday >> on iOS with the jfx78 sources and RoboVM. But even this backport contains >> code which won't work on Android nor on RoboVM. E.g. I had to patch >> FontFileWriter to get Ensemble working (it uses java.nio.file.Files which >> is a Java7+ class). IMO the backport needs to target Android/RoboVM >> specifically and not Java7. A first step would be to make it compile with >> Java6. >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Tobias Bley <t...@ultramixer.com> wrote: >> >>> Maybe the missing classes in the android classes used by RoboVM are only >>> missing in an old android class library and Oracles android port is based >>> on a newer version? >>> >>> >>> Am 05.07.2013 um 13:11 schrieb Daniel Zwolenski <zon...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> This is great Tobi, thanks! >>>> >>>> I'm a bit confused though - seems to be mixed messages on the need for >>> the 78 backport? >>>> >>>> Danno, since Niklas is saying we need the backport, what steps do we >>> need to take to get this working? >>>> >>>> I also don't understand Tobi's comments below about not using the >>> android jdk. What is it that's not working, and isn't jfx suppose to run on >>> android as well? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 04/07/2013, at 11:53 PM, Tobias Bley <t...@ultramixer.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I published by blog post about using JavaFX8 and RoboVM to build a iOS >>> app: http://blog.software4java.com/?p=41 >>>>> >>>>> @Niklas: IMO it’s important that RoboVM support OpenJDK as alternative >>> to the android class library because OpenJFX depends on OpenJDK not on >>> Android class library (Apache Harmony). >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Tobi >>>>> >>>>> Am 04.07.2013 um 14:49 schrieb Niklas Therning <nik...@therning.org>: >>>>> >>>>>> RoboVM doesn't do invokedynamic so I guess this only works if the app >>>>>> doesn't depend on any of the code in JavaFX8 that compiles down to >>>>>> invokedynamic calls. Also, there are quite a few API's available in >>> Java8 >>>>>> (and also Java7) that RoboVM doesn't have. We really need to get the >>> jfx78 >>>>>> backport to compile for iOS and generate the static libs properly. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've just got the font related code in the BrickBreaker sample working >>>>>> using the jfx78 backport. There's still a bit of manual command line >>> work >>>>>> needed to merge the static libraries into universal libraries like the >>> old >>>>>> ant build system did automatically. But it isn't too hard. I'll try to >>> put >>>>>> up instructions on the robovm blog later today. I'll let you know. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:31 AM, <steve.x.northo...@oracle.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/07/2013 7:17 PM, Daniel Zwolenski wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can I just use this: https://jdk8.java.net/**download.html< >>> https://jdk8.java.net/download.html>? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Daniel Zwolenski <zon...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Richard, in the building for Mac section there is a link to >>>>>>>>> "Install the latest JDK 8 build" that goes to a dead URL ( >>>>>>>>> http://jdk8.dev.java.net/). Do you know the correct URL? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Richard Bair < >>> richard.b...@oracle.com>** >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Extensive documentation that is mostly correct: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/**display/OpenJFX/Building+**OpenJFX >>> <https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Building+OpenJFX> >>> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/**display/OpenJFX/Developing+**OpenJFX< >>> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Developing+OpenJFX> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is still a work in progress but most things you need to know to >>> build >>>>>>>>>> is found here. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Daniel Zwolenski <zon...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Trying to catch up to Tobi on this one so I can have some fun with >>> it >>>>>>>>>> too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I assume in order to compile the graphics repo of JFX8 I need an >>> OpenJ8 >>>>>>>>>> JDK >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> already installed? Are there pre-built bundles for this (for mac) >>> or do >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> need to checkout and build myself? Does anyone know which repo, >>> and >>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>> command line arg should I use to build J8 in this case? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Tobias Bley <t...@ultramixer.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I used RoboVM 0.0.2 and the current OpenJFX8 from mercurial >>> graphics >>>>>>>>>>>> branch.... So no 78 backport. I will write a blog post on >>>>>>>>>>>> blog.software4java.com until tomorrow... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Currently the performance is very limited - as Richard told too. >>> I’m >>>>>>>>>>>> testing now all the basic JFX controls (like button, RadioButton, >>>>>>>>>>> CheckBox, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ListView, TableView, ...). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Tobi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 03.07.2013 um 21:47 schrieb Daniel Zwolenski < >>> zon...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tobi, this is awesome! But you've left us hanging :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you use the 78 backport for this or just straight out J8? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the steps to reproduce your working build? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Very darn exciting! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/07/2013, at 2:50 AM, Danno Ferrin < >>> danno.fer...@shemnon.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> JavaFX 8? Does RoboVM support invokedynamic? That is a big >>> deal if >>>>>>>>>>>>> so. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Niklas Therning < >>>>>>>>>>>>> nik...@therning.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome! Can you please post the build instructions somewhere? >>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> getting a long with gradle at all. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Tobi <t...@ultramixer.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It works! Latest JavaFX 8 (gradle based) with RoboVM on a real >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> native text rendering and JFX CSS rendering! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tobi >>> >>>
