Ok. So I will file a P4 saying Lambdafication for Controls and send the diff to Richard/Kevin/Jonathan to be attached..
should I base the change on b110 (master)? I could create a public bitbucket branch based on master and add my changes there - better idea? What approach is most simple for review? Should I split test and library code changes? -Sven P.S. Shall I try to get this done as well for other modules? Which would be preferred? (Just in case I have some more time to spend) On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com>wrote: > ** > > 5. Should we enable more -Xlint warnings in OpenJFX build? > > 6. Any chances anything of this can still go in 8 (e.g. get rid of warnings > > > We have 2 weeks where we can still accept P4-P5 bugs into FX 8, and > getting rid of warnings would be a P4 bug. I guess it depends on how > intrusive the changes are and whether someone has time to review it in the > next two weeks. > > -- Kevin > > > > > Sven Reimers wrote: > > Ok. So here are the results of trying to add lambda and diamond to the > controls module: > > 1. A lot of generics and typing to be fixed (esp. in tests). Seems you can > get some anonymous inner classes type checked by the compiler, but not the > lambda equivalent.. very interesting. > > 2. 279 Files modified (including tests) > > 3. A lot of the automatic replacements could probably be nicer e.g. > > ft.setOnFinished(new EventHandler<ActionEvent>() { > @Override public void handle(ActionEvent > actionEvent) { > getChildren().remove(tm.textNode); > } > }); > > was replaced to: > > ft.setOnFinished((ActionEvent actionEvent) -> { > getChildren().remove(tm.textNode); > }); > > most unobtrusive code probably: > > ft.setOnFinished((actionEvent) -> getChildren().remove(tm.textNode)); > > 4. A lot of illegal forward reference errors - these were result of missing > this in the automatic transformation from anonymous inner to lambdas (seems > the rules are not identical - you have to add "this." as prefix if using > lambdas - not sure this is the expected way it should work) > > 5. Should we enable more -Xlint warnings in OpenJFX build? > > 6. Any chances anything of this can still go in 8 (e.g. get rid of warnings > > 7. Probably more things I just can't think of at the moment... > > How to take this forward? If there is interest in the change I could make > available... > > Comments? Ideas? > > -Sven > > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Sven Reimers <sven.reim...@gmail.com> > <sven.reim...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Oh and btw - would you go for lambda with or without additional type info > before parameter name? > > -Sven > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Sven Reimers <sven.reim...@gmail.com> > <sven.reim...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > Ok. Here you go... > > I just did an inspection run for the controls module and my IDE came up > with (drum roll) 888 possible lambda conversions.. > > Looking through them I discovered that usage of <> (aka diamond syntax) > is not used (or at least not used a lot) in at least the controls > modules. My IDE showed me 1171 occurrences. > > Is there a good reason not to use diamonds? > > Will now try to apply all those changes and figure out if this still > builds... up next: go through the other modules... > > -Sven > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Richard Bair <richard.b...@oracle.com> > <richard.b...@oracle.com>wrote: > > > > Brian was telling me at J1 that whether parallel gets you performance or > not depends on the size of the collection and the complexity of the work to > perform. There is definitely a point at which parallel helps -- and a point > at which it hurts. > > Richard > > On Oct 3, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Hervé Girod <herve.gi...@gmail.com> > <herve.gi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Here is a nice example, taking advantage of the ease of going > > > parallel. Apparently the performance without parallel will also further > improve.http://blog.hersen.name/blog/2013/10/01/project-lambda-it-was-worth-the-wait/ > > Hervé > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On 4 oct. 2013, at 00:20, David Grieve <david.gri...@oracle.com> > <david.gri...@oracle.com> > > wrote: > > > And what about Stream? I like the declarative code that comes from > > > using Stream and I can see places in the code where Stream could be used, > but I wonder about its performance relative to iterators and/or enhanced > for loops. > > > On Oct 3, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Richard Bair <richard.b...@oracle.com> > <richard.b...@oracle.com> > > wrote: > > > Hello, OpenJFX Community. > > There's a question about using Java 8 features in FX. > > I've been working on the support for InputMethods in JFXPanel which > > > is an important feature for many users who speak hieroglyphic languages. > > > The issue is tracked under: > > > https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-13248 > > In order to have a high-quality support we need to change > > > javafx.scene.input.InputMethodRequests interface and introduce 3 new > methods. This is not needed for pure FX applications right now, but > absolutely required for InputMethods in the JFXPanel. However, the > interface is public and it was present since FX2.0, so changing it would > become a breaking change. So the only way to avoid the problem is using the > default methods. Those would return some stub values, the JDK is OK with > that, as it would not crash or throw exceptions, but text composition would > not work correctly. > > > I know that we want to avoid using the Java 8 features in the > > > JFX-8, so I wanted to ask - is it OK to use the default methods here? > > > If you are staying away from JDK8 features for the JFX78 backport, > > > don't worry. There are more issues with new JDK8 APIs than with the new > language features. > > > For example there were default methods put into some collections > > > classes that we solved by pushing them down to the first implements. But > the Date and Time picker depends on the new time package. The threeten > backport won't be updated until after 8 ships, so that has been removed so > far. > > > I'de be interested to know what a wholesale lamdaization would > > > result in speed wise and code size wise (both source and compiled). From > what I can tell the IDEs can lambda and de-lambda fairly easily, so it jsut > makes the backport more of a busy work proposition. If there were > performance gains it would also make a great front page story in the next > java magazine or a case study.. > > > After having used Lambda's for JavaOne, I'd love to make the > > > conversion, even if in the end the performance was the same, because the > savings in noise in the Java files is so big. At one time I just took the > concurrent classes and lambda-ized them to measure the impact on those > classes. You could maybe pick a package and just lambda-ize that one > package and see what happens in terms of size reduction. We might see: > > > + A reduction in the overall class size (not pack-200'd) > - An increase in startup time (have to spin up synthetic classes > > > created at usage time) > > > +/- And increase or decrease in performance > + A decrease in source code > > It would be interesting to get some data for these points and see > > > what effect lambda's have. Especially if an IDE can just do it in bulk… > > > Richard > > > -- > Sven Reimers > > * Senior Expert Software Architect > * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org > * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans > Desktop > Java:http://community.java.net/javadesktop > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 > * Blog: http://nbguru.blogspot.com > > * XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Sven_Reimers8 > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers > > Join the NetBeans Groups: > * XING: http://www.xing.com/group-20148.82db20 > * NUGM: http://haug-server.dyndns.org/display/NUGM/Home > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1860468 > http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=107402 > http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1684717 > * Oracle: https://mix.oracle.com/groups/18497 > > > -- > Sven Reimers > > * Senior Expert Software Architect > * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org > * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans > Desktop > Java:http://community.java.net/javadesktop > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 > * Blog: http://nbguru.blogspot.com > > * XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Sven_Reimers8 > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers > > Join the NetBeans Groups: > * XING: http://www.xing.com/group-20148.82db20 > * NUGM: http://haug-server.dyndns.org/display/NUGM/Home > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1860468 > http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=107402 > http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1684717 > * Oracle: https://mix.oracle.com/groups/18497 > > > > -- Sven Reimers * Senior Expert Software Architect * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans Desktop Java: http://community.java.net/javadesktop * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 * Blog: http://nbguru.blogspot.com * XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Sven_Reimers8 * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers Join the NetBeans Groups: * XING: http://www.xing.com/group-20148.82db20 * NUGM: http://haug-server.dyndns.org/display/NUGM/Home * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1860468 http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=107402 http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1684717 * Oracle: https://mix.oracle.com/groups/18497