Mike, I believe it is essential that the JavaFX WebView supports WebGL as this is where a lot of the OpenGL work is being done now. At the moment, JavaFX WebView is limited to Lite Mode of Google Maps for example so it is not really compatible with an external browser. Other than that, there has to be a seamless way of integrating custom shaders and arbitrary OpenGL in a way that works in conjunction with the scene graph. Current 3D support in JavaFX is "token" at best...
On 30 June 2015 at 21:21, Jack Moxley <j...@moxley.co.uk> wrote: > I suppose i should stop shouting from the sidelines, roll up my sleeves > and get my hands dirty, what can i do as a lowly developer to help? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 30 Jun 2015, at 12:16, Felix Bembrick <felix.bembr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Well, we are all at the whim of Oracle executives decisions with the > added help of third parties such as Gluon and RoboVM. The future of JavaFX > really is in *our* hands. > > > > > > > >> On 30 Jun 2015, at 21:13, Jack Moxley <j...@moxley.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >> Maybe it should its aspirations a little higher, especially with the > advent of unity, webgl or even scenegraph impls such as jmonkeyengine that > do. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On 30 Jun 2015, at 09:42, Felix Bembrick <felix.bembr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> <cough>JavaFX has *never* claimed to be write once, run anyway</cough> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 30 Jun 2015, at 18:13, Mike <mikeg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> <cough>write once, run anywhere</cough> > >>>> > >>>> This about sums it up! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Jack Moxley <j...@moxley.co.uk> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> <cough>write once, run anywhere</cough> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>> > >>>>>>> On 29 Jun 2015, at 21:45, Michał Zegan <webczat_...@poczta.onet.pl > > > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>>>>> Hash: SHA1 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Does it mean platform support for linux won't be implemented now, or > >>>>>> at all? > >>>>>> I usually use windows, but still depend on that support because I > >>>>>> sometimes use linux, so I am interested about that. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> W dniu 2015-06-29 o 22:40, Kevin Rushforth pisze: > >>>>>>> There is public API in 8u40 to support accessibility. Applications > >>>>>>> using standard JavaFX controls can, for example, use the > >>>>>>> accessibleText property to define the text that the screen reader > >>>>>>> will speak or the accessibleHelp property to provide a more > >>>>>>> detailed description. These properties have reasonable defaults, > >>>>>>> but can be overridden by applications. Additionally, if you use the > >>>>>>> "labelFor" property to point to a Control that the Label is > >>>>>>> associated with, the accessibility framework will use that when the > >>>>>>> screen reader is active. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Custom controls can override the queryAccessibleAttribute, > >>>>>>> executeAccessibleAction, and notifyAccessibleAttributeChanged > >>>>>>> methods. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> As for platform support, we currently support Windows and Mac > >>>>>>> platforms. We have no plan to make FX accessible on Linux . > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- Kevin > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Michał Zegan wrote: I saw it, and it seems promising, but: first, > >>>>>>> there is probably, or I heard it wrong? no public api for making > >>>>>>> accessibility related stuff... Also, I believe there is no linux > >>>>>>> accessibility bridge as opposed to windows and mac. And I do not > >>>>>>> know if I am wrong, or when this is going to be implemented. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> W dniu 2015-06-29 o 20:30, Kevin Rushforth pisze: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> JavaFX accessibility is already implemented and was delivered > >>>>>>>>>> in JDK 8u40. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- Kevin > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Michał Zegan wrote: What about accessibility work? Work on it > >>>>>>>>>> has been started, but not sure if it is still targetted for > >>>>>>>>>> 9. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> W dniu 2015-06-27 o 20:16, Mike pisze: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of FULL blown Webrtc support and building > >>>>>>>>>>>>> something in Javafx (like Scene Builder) that Proves > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Webrtc support would be awesome. Ditto to Webgl > >>>>>>>>>>>>> support. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Kevin Rushforth > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Felix, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay. Most of us were still pretty > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> focused on 8u60, but we are turning our attention to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JDK 9 now. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The focus for JDK 9 is Jigsaw. The currently planned > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> big features (JEPs) for FX in JDK 9 are these: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JEP 253: Prepare JavaFX UI Controls & CSS APIs for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Modularization JEP 257: Update JavaFX/Media to Newer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version of GStreamer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Related to Jigasw, we intend to look into new API for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heavily used internal methods / classes since they > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will no longer be accessible otherwise. We also plan > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to update WebKit at least one more time, and will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely do a few RFEs such as better Hi-DPI support > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with API control) on Mac, Windows, Linux. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't currently plan any other big features for 9, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but will consider additional RFEs if they are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> important to enough developers and if they fit into > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the time frame. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Kevin > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Felix Bembrick wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone got anything or is there a link somewhere > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that talks about these? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15 June 2015 at 22:00, Felix Bembrick > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix.bembr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I realise we are a long way off JDK 9 still and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with crucial features such as Jigsaw still a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little up in the air but is it possible someone > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could itemise the most likely new features, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements and bug fixes that we will see in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JavaFX when JDK 9 is released? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course it's purely speculation at this point > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it would assist me greatly to have some of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of where JavaFX is heading and which areas > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are seen as most important. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Felix > >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >>>>>> Version: GnuPG v2 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVka5MAAoJEHb1CzgxXKwYbKwP/RFa3NjMnXWFc6o5EzIFYlh3 > >>>>>> 5ExLUgu+IVWr1fewrf+KTcR9WmyXWN2ju8zkRb7nhjSiA+5XAf3vbvUBGTaaa1A4 > >>>>>> 92Fd0W2Mfj8M9F3Px5QP1TMS1BO7GrO12zsB+obmBvWA/xWy0GEoctja8ohT5aNf > >>>>>> hs7foi4pZRK6abMvxd94WdSNh/KhzqNvllD3tIkqlasTOOH1i7bEreQ9sxN6+DRF > >>>>>> JB87JSRuml7rYEgsOSx5Z2EE7YdgqYjdfHSAIwBvqkRDQZuOp8RrWzU6wFyyzhlm > >>>>>> RtuAQJWj1I2DNbZE9iCNJzYqajnp0OellbxGr9SrJaVPpqNjjbw6zoGZ3bhgCAow > >>>>>> BAZUlllG9UVoKcl1bHDvmB01RG2JP7RtBByS0cbqGQM0/YqtknbNWpl2r5kTVyH1 > >>>>>> EZnfkXmXYi/lqgyRBf1/WqlJnuT10ra7oAQytUajZ3cQJNbRwuFycV0yvbGo11xS > >>>>>> eaQO2ECgYyubLE8vsnw1L+2U4wLAMXY9Q3Ob1kLq12UEYB8WMoLZ+IAixUUJ6abB > >>>>>> reI+epG/Bh27R0fHChkHEgY65TIMRt8RtOXxzs+Nf0VVAC4Lj9378Y8ZEr14RbcZ > >>>>>> mO+5TvyqfDhyIP4WevGDF2/tQTvlsAzl7UuiTtD3pWZ+CpN2WeNimBHPN2ZI6lii > >>>>>> Mfj0LIA1IawOjtYjlnHz > >>>>>> =lXSV > >>>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > >
