The proposed strategy also applies to bitbucket, which does have mercurial support ;)
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Markus KARG <mar...@headcrashing.eu> wrote: > Too bad that Github cannot fork mercurial repos. It would be interesting > to see the real number of pull requests such a fork would gain. Maybe > Dalibor is right and we would end up with zero? ;-) > > -Markus > > > > From: Tomas Mikula [mailto:tomas.mik...@gmail.com] > Sent: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2015 23:05 > To: Markus KARG > Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net > Subject: Re: Future of JavaFX > > > > The review process for external contributions does not even have to be > different from the internal review process. There can be a virtual > organization on GitHub called "Oracle CLA signatories". After a pull > request has been reviewed, all that the OpenJFX committer has to do before > merging is to check whether the contributor is a member of this > organization. > > > > Tomas > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Markus KARG <mar...@headcrashing.eu> > wrote: > > We should ask ourselfs whether we want more contributions or not. We will > not get them until we change something. Most contributors in the Open > Source just want to drop a bug report or a feature or two, and multiplied > by the number of those guys, this is a lot of stuff. Only few contributors > are willing to stay for long time, and only for those it makes sense to > have the complex rules. For example, I do not see why we cannot have a > dedicated full time "Community Officer" who simply collects the > contributions, reviews it, applies the needed checks and rules and all that > instead of asking everybody to follow a complex process? That would ensure > the quality, but not for the cost of losing contributors. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hervé Girod [mailto:herve.gi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2015 20:19 > To: Markus KARG > Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net > Subject: Re: Future of JavaFX > > Things are not different for Apache projects. Google does not accept any > external contributions. The Linux kernel development is very tightly > controlled. We should stop considering that widespread open source policies > are only a problem with JavaFX. These policies are in place for a reason. > > Hervé > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 1, 2015, at 20:13, Markus KARG <mar...@headcrashing.eu> wrote: > > > > I wonder why I was able to jointly assign my copyright with a lot of > other > > open source projects without having to sign papers, sent them in by fax, > > wait for a written agreement, and pray to get a JIRA account... ;-) > > > > See, I talked to a real lot of former JavaFX contributors in the past > weeks > > (visited some European JUGs in 2015), and *virtually everybody* told me > that > > he is really unsatisfied with the fact that he cannot directly file to > JIRA > > anymore or AT LEAST vote and comment on existing tickets. Is the JavaFX > team > > clear about how many contributors you lost by that policy? I really > wonder > > whether you see the reality there outside of Oracle. People stopped > > reporting bugs! This is a real problem for JavaFX. You should act. Now. > > > > -Markus > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On > Behalf Of > > dalibor topic > > Sent: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2015 19:06 > > To: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net > > Subject: Re: Future of JavaFX > > > >> On 01.12.2015 18:35, Markus KARG wrote: > >> With respect to TeamFX, the better question is: Are there plans to > further > >> open the project so third party has an easier channel to contribute > > without > >> the hazzle of contributor agreements > > > > "Like many other open-source communities, the OpenJDK Community requires > > Contributors to jointly assign their copyright on contributed code." as > > http://openjdk.java.net/contribute/ wisely says. > > > > There is no good reason to change that. > > > > cheers, > > dalibor topic > > -- > > <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager > > Phone: +494089091214 <tel:%2B494089091214> <tel:+494089091214 > <tel:%2B494089091214> > | Mobile: +491737185961 <tel:%2B491737185961> > > <tel:+491737185961 <tel:%2B491737185961> > > > > > ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Kühnehöfe 5 | 22761 Hamburg > > > > ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG > > Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München > > Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 > > > > Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. > > Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande > > Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 > > Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Astrid Kepper, Val Maher > > > > <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing > > practices and products that help protect the environment > > > > > >