I see it differently. Often the initial contribution does not fulfil the quality, because the original author alone has not the time to fix all the law stuff, but just has a great idea and hacks it down. Then others chime in an fix it. I often saw (an helped with) such features in other open source projects like PostgreSQL, JOnAS, FOP, DITA-OT... and it was always a great experience to work *together* to get the thing running and finally done in the wanted quality.
This is not possible in the JavaFX project, as the original author has no chance to file to core idea and let others finish it, since you expect the original author not only having the great idea and hack together the first draw, but first of all, sign papers, read lots of rules and process definitions, and so on, before you even take a look at his idea (this is what happened to me several times). Hence, you expect the original author to have plenty of time to do all that on his own, all alone. That does not match on most community driven open source authors, it only matches on commercial open source vendors. So actually you only want to get contributions from Oracle, IBM, Gluan and possibly a hand full of fully paid others, but not from the user space. That's a pity, because that user space has a lot of great ideas. So if you only want full-time contributors, please say it loud and clear on the "how to contribute" page, and all that "noise" from the community will stop at once -- including USING JavaFX as a side effect. I wouldn't bother you if I wouldn't have met those people and listened to their ideas, BTW. -Markus -----Original Message----- From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of dalibor topic Sent: Mittwoch, 2. Dezember 2015 10:46 To: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Re: Future of JavaFX On 01.12.2015 22:58, Markus KARG wrote: > I actually talk about those people that *did not* invest the time to > contribute Making high quality contributions to open source projects takes a considerable amount of humbleness, time and effort. People who aren't able or willing to invest the necessary time and effort into making high quality contributions are not likely to produce acceptable results - in any open source community. To quote Jono Bacon: "Low-quality contributors don't bring much other than noise: they are a net drain on resources because other good contributors have to take time away to support them." [1] cheers, dalibor topic [1] http://opensource.com/life/15/3/how-to-fire-community-members -- <http://www.oracle.com> Dalibor Topic | Principal Product Manager Phone: +494089091214 <tel:+494089091214> | Mobile: +491737185961 <tel:+491737185961> ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG | Kühnehöfe 5 | 22761 Hamburg ORACLE Deutschland B.V. & Co. KG Hauptverwaltung: Riesstr. 25, D-80992 München Registergericht: Amtsgericht München, HRA 95603 Komplementärin: ORACLE Deutschland Verwaltung B.V. Hertogswetering 163/167, 3543 AS Utrecht, Niederlande Handelsregister der Handelskammer Midden-Niederlande, Nr. 30143697 Geschäftsführer: Alexander van der Ven, Astrid Kepper, Val Maher <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment