Again, I agree with Tim. Even though only a bunch of people use Illustrator / QGis and lots use GoogleMaps, the feature we're talking about (i.e. feature editing) is more "advanced user" oriented IMHO. Also, people easily adapt to new features. Key shortcuts are really, really useful and when you get used to them, there's no turning back ;) .

I also thing that having both "near edge' and "hold space bar" panning methods while drawing features would be a nice addition.

Kind regards,

Alexandre


On 11-01-12 12:12 PM, Tim Schaub wrote:
Sure, just don't mess with snapping :) There are people who have already paid for the current set of behavior.

An option to pan as you get near the edge seems like a nice compromise. My favorite will still be space bar to suspend drawing.

On 1/12/11 9:58 AM, Emmanuel Belo wrote:
Hi,

Please take into account that we have currently 2 customers running
broad audience websites who request the suggested behaviour. There is
some funding for a draw/pan function without modifiers.

Best regards,

Emmanuel Belo
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Le 12 janv. 2011 17:35, "Bruno Binet" <bruno.bi...@camptocamp.com
<mailto:bruno.bi...@camptocamp.com>> a écrit :
> I think that using modifier is actually more effective, but that would
> also mean it focus on experienced users that knows about modifiers.
> In my opinion, the google way to do it is more user friendly because
> targeted to basic users, whereas desktop applications such as
> illustrator are targeted to more expert users.
>
> On 12 January 2011 17:11, Tim Schaub <tsch...@opengeo.org
<mailto:tsch...@opengeo.org>> wrote:
>> I like the behavior of other vector drawing software I've used where a >> modifier key suspends the behavior of the activated tool or temporarily
>> activates another.
>>
>> For example, in Illustrator, the space bar temporarily activates the
Hand
>> Tool (for dragging) while drawing.  This makes for fast
drawing/navigating
>> and I think there are a lot of folks that already work with this type of
>> environment.
>>
>> I know Google does it differently, but I don't necessarily think we
have to
>> follow.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 1/12/11 8:58 AM, Bruno Binet wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12 January 2011 16:15, Andreas Hocevar<ahoce...@opengeo.org
<mailto:ahoce...@opengeo.org>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 14:15 , Eric Lemoine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Andreas
Hocevar<ahoce...@opengeo.org <mailto:ahoce...@opengeo.org>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for your efforts. My only concern is that adding vertices on
>>>>>> mouseup instead of mousedown negatively affects the user
experience when a
>>>>>> Snapping control is used. This is because the user doesn't see
any more
>>>>>> where the vertex is going to be snapped to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At this point, I have no idea how to solve this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please elaborate? Do you see ux issues on
>>>>>
>>>>>
<http://dev.openlayers.org/sandbox/elemoine/draw-feature/examples/snapping.html>?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Placing the first vertex of a line (in the example) or a
point (in
>>>> general) is a shot in the dark - you never know where it snaps to.
>>>
>>> I agree, but we may adapt the snapping control to overcome this
>>> limitation. By example we could show a sketch point when the mouse
>>> pointer is located in a snapping area.
>>>
>>>> Andreas.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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