Guys, I wonder if it makes sense to switch to the java database at
some point (for example Derby is a part of Apache). This would
simplify installation now, and at some point may result in better JIT
optimizations.

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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:45 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah,
>
> you're right. I would suggest if it works with a 40.000 Users
> import/export, at lets say -Xmx512MB for the hole red5 server process,
> I think its an acceptable performance.
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2011/7/21 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>:
>> If memory used amount of memory will be unacceptably high we can use
>> temporary tables for store id pairs.
>> With openJPA it will be just couple additional beans.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 16:21, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> yes this was the thing that I tried to avoid :) Collecting all IDs and
>>> building lookup tables to see which old id corresponds to the record
>>> after the import.
>>>
>>> The other thing, to import the objects in the correct order is already
>>> implemented.
>>>
>>> Some Issue will be also the uploaded files: There are some
>>> restrictions on the user's profile images. I think they have the
>>> userId as folderName in the path. So you can't copy the folders
>>> anymore into the disk just by coping the ROOT folder of the
>>> upload-directory from the Backup-ZIP to the disk, cause there are some
>>> subfolders that contain invalid folderNames that need to be
>>> rewritten/renamed.
>>>
>>> We can try that out, its obviously better if it works but its a rather
>>> big change.
>>> My concern is the same like yours: Could be quite memory hungry process.
>>>
>>> I got for example a database with 40.000++ users that I need to
>>> import/export. Holding all 40.000 users would not work, maybe holding
>>> the 40.000 IDs could work.
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> 2011/7/21 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>:
>>> > Hello Sebastian, Vasiliy
>>> > Instead of creating generator classes I would like to propose the
>>> > following
>>> > mechanism:
>>> > 1) Import should be done in "well known" order i.e. organisanisations
>>> > are
>>> > imported first then users, then rooms etc.
>>> > 2) While importing certain object id is not set. Instead of this old id
>>> > and
>>> > new id are stored in hashtable key== oldId, value == newId
>>> > 3) While importing objects containing links to "parent objects" newId is
>>> > used using Hashtable created.
>>> > 4) Pictures/streams/videos are stored in the file system using newId
>>> > The import will be memory consuming operation but all constraints will
>>> > be
>>> > valid.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 17:46, Vasya <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Sebastian,
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for your answer!
>>> >>
>>> >> I will continue to investigate problem tomorrow.
>>> >>
>>> >> Vasiliy.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jul 18, 5:32 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Hi Vasya,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If tested getBackupRooms yesterday, it was okay for me.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The thing with the *deleted* is that it has to return ALL records, no
>>> >> > matter if  the deleted flag is set or not.
>>> >> > This is the case because of the foreign key references.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Just imagine the following sample:
>>> >> > Rooms-Table:
>>> >> > ID name deleted
>>> >> > 1  room1 false
>>> >> > 2  room2 true
>>> >> > 3  room3 false
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Rooms-Organizations Table:
>>> >> > ID rooms_id organisation_id
>>> >> > 1  1             1
>>> >> > 1  2             2
>>> >> > 1  3             1
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If you only export those records that are deleted == 'false'
>>> >> > => the importer would add room3 as the record with the ID 2 and as
>>> >> > consequence the room would be assigned to the organization 2 => which
>>> >> > is wrong of course.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > And the same you have between all tables. That is why I did import
>>> >> > records always WITH all records marked as "deleted" AND in the import
>>> >> > process I did add each object with the ID ALREADY SET. That means I
>>> >> > did not use the generated Id from Hibernate, I did use the ID that
>>> >> > was
>>> >> > provided with the XML. But this does not work anymore as openJPA does
>>> >> > not accept objects where the ID is > 0.
>>> >> > At the moment everything is fine if you do a single import directly
>>> >> > after the installation. But for example a user creates an
>>> >> > Organization
>>> >> > (will be Id = 2), deletes it again, the ID=2 is gone, if we do any
>>> >> > import now with references to an organization=2 => everything Fails.
>>> >> > In the old implementation we still where able to add an Org with ID=2
>>> >> > cause we did provide the ID in the Import Object and did not use the
>>> >> > generated one for objects that are created using the import.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > That is the problem, if you have an idea on what we might can do
>>> >> > about
>>> >> > those ID problem, maybe there is a Generator Class in openJPA that
>>> >> > accepts self generated IDs.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sebastian
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2011/7/18 Vasya <[email protected]>:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Hi Sebastian,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > I have found and fixed two errors in backup:
>>> >> > > 1.      Roommanagement.getInstance().getBackupRooms() returns error
>>> >> > > so
>>> >> > > root
>>> >> > > condition of criteria query is not defined.
>>> >> > > 2.      BackupImport.getAppointmentListByXML method does not work
>>> >> > > properly
>>> >> > > because 'user_id' is not set.
>>> >> > > I have fixed these errors and sent you email with patch.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > So, I have question about
>>> >> > > UsersDaoImpl.getInstance().getAllUsersDeleted() method. It's not
>>> >> > > cleared for me what list of users should be returns all users or
>>> >> > > deleted users?  This method calls from BackupExport for export
>>> >> > > users.
>>> >> > > Please clarify what list of users should be return from this
>>> >> > > method.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Tomorrow I will continue to work on openmeetings and try to resolve
>>> >> > > other problems.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Thanks,
>>> >> > > Vasiliy.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > On Jul 18, 1:55 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> >> > > wrote:
>>> >> > >> Hi Vasya,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> I think I've fixed it, but some more testing would be good.
>>> >> > >> I also found out that sometimes emails contain the char: &#3; (and
>>> >> > >> &#22; and &#7; )
>>> >> > >> ... the SaxParser fails to read those files
>>> >> > >> ... I think it is because people copy/paste their email from
>>> >> > >> somewhere
>>> >> > >> in the fields.
>>> >> > >> But I have no idea about how they do it ... However this only
>>> >> > >> happens
>>> >> > >> 1 time per 1000 users but still strange.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> For the Primary Key Issue I have no idea too, I changed it now but
>>> >> > >> as
>>> >> > >> you can imagine it can get quite confusing if the system generates
>>> >> > >> the
>>> >> > >> id itself and you import xxx records that "should" reference each
>>> >> > >> other based on those IDs. For example rooms VS organisations or
>>> >> > >> users
>>> >> > >> VS organizations
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> Sebastian
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> 2011/7/18 Vasya <[email protected]>:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > Hello Sebastian,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > May be my test of backup was not completely. Today a have try to
>>> >> > >> > retest the import of backup more details.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > Vasily.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> > On Jul 18, 1:12 am, "[email protected]"
>>> >> > >> > <[email protected]>
>>> >> > >> > wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> The import of Backup did not work. OpenJPA does not accept to
>>> >> > >> >> add
>>> >> > >> >> a
>>> >> > >> >> new object where the Primary Key is already set. This is
>>> >> > >> >> neccessary
>>> >> > >> >> for importing existing Records from one database to another
>>> >> > >> >> because of
>>> >> > >> >> the foreign key relation-ships.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> I have changed the code for now so that it works again. (in
>>> >> > >> >> r3997)
>>> >> > >> >> However, there are still some issues to be solved.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> You might never run into that, the imported checks if the Id
>>> >> > >> >> does
>>> >> > >> >> exists before it adds a new record. So if you export a freshly
>>> >> > >> >> installed openmeetings and then import it again into the same
>>> >> > >> >> =>
>>> >> > >> >> Zero
>>> >> > >> >> happens.
>>> >> > >> >> So to test the backup import you really need to generate some
>>> >> > >> >> users/conferencerooms/calendar-events/private messages and
>>> >> > >> >> contacts et
>>> >> > >> >> cetera and then trying to import that backup into a fresh
>>> >> > >> >> installed
>>> >> > >> >> openmeetings database.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> Sebastian
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> 2011/7/16 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > the saluation thing is fixed too....
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > Sebastian
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > 2011/7/16 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>:
>>> >> > >> >> >> great to hear it :)
>>> >> > >> >> >> please let me know in case of any issues you will found.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 20:27, [email protected]
>>> >> > >> >> >> <[email protected]>
>>> >> > >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> ok ...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> I've fixed that issue with the order. Now I need to add
>>> >> > >> >> >>> also
>>> >> > >> >> >>> the where
>>> >> > >> >> >>> clause in the annotation. This is really nice, this manual
>>> >> > >> >> >>> sub-select
>>> >> > >> >> >>> for the main-menu always was a nasty hack because the
>>> >> > >> >> >>> x-doclet
>>> >> > >> >> >>> hbm.xml
>>> >> > >> >> >>> creation did not allow those sub-queries with
>>> >> > >> >> >>> where+orderby.
>>> >> > >> >> >>>  ... this
>>> >> > >> >> >>> is also the reason why we have STRING flag *deleted* and
>>> >> > >> >> >>> NOT a
>>> >> > >> >> >>> boolean
>>> >> > >> >> >>> field *deleted*. In previous hibernate/xdoclet creation it
>>> >> > >> >> >>> was
>>> >> > >> >> >>> not
>>> >> > >> >> >>> possible to write a annotation with a boolean value as
>>> >> > >> >> >>> where
>>> >> > >> >> >>> clause ^^
>>> >> > >> >> >>> At some point we might clean that up too.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> The other one with the strang saluations_id / Primary Key
>>> >> > >> >> >>> is
>>> >> > >> >> >>> still to be
>>> >> > >> >> >>> done.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> Sebastian
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> 2011/7/16 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > Hi Maxim,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > I am currently checking out the openJPA refactoring. I
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > like
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > it, looks
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > very nice and using annotations instead of XML files is
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > quite elegant.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > Maybe you have an idea about those things:
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > - The navigation items are ordered different. For example
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > by
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > default
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > you have the calendar instead of the dashboard now. And
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > in
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > the
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > Administration you have a different order too. You have
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > some
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > code to
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > do the one-to-many relation in your mapping. I think we
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > might remove
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > that and use java.util.List again, I think java.util.Set
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > is
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > not save
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > in meaning of the order of items.
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > - The table saluations start with the id 251 in my case.
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > Normally
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > record 1 should have salutations_id 1. That is necessary
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > as
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > the its
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > hardcoded in the client adminstration panel that "Mr" has
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > the ID 1.
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > You got an idea about that?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > Sebastian
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> > 2011/7/16 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>:
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >> Hello Sebastian,
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >> I just checked: the last extension listed is png
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >> and it is available for selection.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 17:58, [email protected]
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >> <[email protected]>
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> Have you verified that all extension are visible then
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> in
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> the windows
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> upload dialog?
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> In previous flash version after xx extension it just
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> cuts
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> off and the
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> rest was not visible or selectable at all. That was
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> weird.
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> That is why
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> there are multiple columns and possibilities to choose.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> Sebastian
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> 2011/7/16  <[email protected]>:
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > Revision: 3988
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > Author:   solomax666
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > Date:     Sat Jul 16 02:59:13 2011
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > Log:      - "Allowed Files" should contain all
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > extensions allowed
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>>
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > > >http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/source/detail?r=3988
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > Modified:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >  
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > /trunk/singlewebapp/WebContent/openmeetings/base/components/upload/fileUpload.lzx
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > =======================================
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > ---
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > /trunk/singlewebapp/WebContent/openmeetings/base/components/upload/fileUpload.lzx
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >   Fri Jun 24 08:16:56 2011
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > +++
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > /trunk/singlewebapp/WebContent/openmeetings/base/components/upload/fileUpload.lzx
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >   Sat Jul 16 02:59:13 2011
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > @@ -64,7 +64,7 @@
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >                                var imageTypes = new
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > Object();
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >                                imageTypes.description
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > =
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > "Allowed
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > Files";
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > -                               imageTypes.extension
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > =
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > "*.txt;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.pcd;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.ps;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.psd; *.tiff; *.bmp; *.svg; *.jpg; *.jpeg; *.gif;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.png; *.ppt;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.pptx;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.odp; *.odt; *.doc; *.docx; *.rtf; *.txt; *.ods;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.sxc;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.xls;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.xlsx;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.pdf";
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > +                               imageTypes.extension
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > =
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > "*.txt;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.ppt;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.pptx; *.odp; *.odt; *.wpd; *.doc; *.docx; *.rtf;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.txt; *.ods;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.sxc;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.xls; *.xlsx; *.sxi; *.pdf; *.avi; *.mov; *.flv;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.mp4;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.tga;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.xcf;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.wpg; *.ico; *.ttf; *.pcd; *.pcds; *.ps; *.psd;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.tiff;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.bmp;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.svg;
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > *.dpx; *.exr; *.jpg; *.jpeg; *.gif; *.png";
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >  allTypes.push(imageTypes);
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >                                imageTypes = new
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > Object();
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > @@ -78,7 +78,7 @@
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >                 allTypes.push(imageTypes);
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> >                                imageTypes = new
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > Object();
>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>> > -
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ...
>>> >> >
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