Ok!

is your patch developed against trunk ?

Sebastian

2011/11/22 German Grekhov <[email protected]>

> Ok, maybe I have already forgotten why you didn't include this to the
> trunk...
> But we have moved this button to the video-view after receiving the users
> feedback. Those placement of button was very unhandy for users and they
> didn't clearly understand how to use it and how it worked. But this
> implementation was successfully received by them. It is very clear way of
> giving exclusive audio.
>
> I remember that you wanted to give this button more complex logic. But I
> think that this logic is very complex for users too. They want to use some
> fast and handy ways (and attractive). Your solution is not so clear, fast
> and handy for a simple user's work. So, I offer you look at our
> implementation, may be you will change your opinion.
>
> And the last... "Give the floor smb" means "give smb permission to talk at
> the conference". It is a synonym for "give smb exclusive audio" :)
>
> German.
>
> 2011/11/22 [email protected] <[email protected]>
>
> Hi German,
>>
>> the problem about the "exclusive audio" was not the functionality as, it
>> was a good idea to add it, But the implementation had some issues. There
>> where calls in the code that simply where referencing nowhere. Also it
>> seemed to me that you've put the button in the video-view to avoid need to
>> code the logic behind such a button in the user list :)))
>> I still plan to add this functionality again, I just had no time yet.
>>
>> About muting other to avoid noises from bad microphones:
>> The other theory about doing such kind of noise reduction is the way
>> other video-conferencing application have done it: Instead of "giving"
>> exclusive audio, you have a button "Push to Talk", that means that your
>> micro is only enabled as long as you hold the button.
>> That way also two parties or more can speak at a time without any need to
>> somebody to enable or disable the audio.
>>
>> I don't understand what you mean by the term "giving floor to somebody"?
>>
>> Maybe we could discuss those functionality that you propose and then
>> implement some compromise.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> 2011/11/22 German Grekhov <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Sebastian,
>>>
>>> I want to talk about some new functionality. First of all I want to talk
>>> about "give exclusive audio" (give the floor) functionality. This
>>> functionality is very popular among our russian consumers, and it very good
>>> to include it to the trunk version. Because many of people have cheap
>>> microphones and they listen to some noise during their conference if more
>>> than one people talk simultaneously. Another reason is providing a new
>>> interesting feature that gives a user more opportunities in his conference.
>>>
>>> Yes, it is a special feature therefore it is some controversial, and you
>>> are not fully agree about it.
>>> So, we offer to make a new type of conference room which is called
>>> something like  "Microphone permission room" or just "Microphone room".
>>> Every user at this room type could use this functionality. But other room
>>> types would not provide it.
>>>
>>> And our implementation of this functionality have changed from the last
>>> time we communicated about it.
>>> There are next changes:
>>> 1) "Give the floor" button is not placed on the left user list, but it
>>> is placed on the video window. If a user move his mouse into some video
>>> window this button appears in the center of it. And it disappears after
>>> moving the mouse out of the video window. It was made because it provides a
>>> fast way to give the floor to somebody. Old implementation let a user make
>>> several clicks to give the floor, but not only one.
>>> 2) This button is a big button, because it is more handy for using it.
>>> 3) Every user could give the floor himself, but he can't give it another
>>> user. Is was made for avoiding some chaos at the conference.
>>> 4) A moderator of the conference could give the floor every user.
>>> 5) A hot-key was added. If you press F12 you will give the floor
>>> yourself.
>>>
>>> I can send you the patch with it and you will check these thing. Maybe
>>> you will have any comments.
>>>
>>> Thank you. Best regards,
>>> German Grekhov.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> [email protected]
>>
>
>


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http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
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