What is melange? Who should post the proposal there: I or my mentor?
2 апреля 2012 г. 18:16 пользователь [email protected] <[email protected]> написал: > How did you get the mentoring access to the melange website? Do you need to > request it on code-awards? > > Sebastian > > 2012/4/2 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >> Yes I do have the access, >> and I cannot see German and Dmitry projects among listed projects. >> >> BTW, were there any other applicants on the list? >> >> -- >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> http://dataved.ru/ >> +7 916 562 8095 >> >> >> >> 2012/4/2 [email protected] <[email protected]>: >> > @Alexei: Do you have a mentoring access to melange? >> > >> > 2012/4/2 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> >> > >> >> Guys, >> >> proposals should be published both on the project wiki (or Apache >> >> wiki) and at melange, that's important not to miss melange. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> >> http://dataved.ru/ >> >> +7 916 562 8095 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM, [email protected] >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > *Have I understood right that upload stream from a user with a wide >> >> > >> >> > connection is with high quality, but then when it has gone to the >> >> > server the quality of the download stream could be changed for a user >> >> > with narrow connection? What do you think about the importance of the >> >> > task?* >> >> > => No, curently we can't deliver different stream based on user >> >> > configuration. Basically this task requires to modify Red5. >> >> > Importance of that feature ... well sure it would be nice and >> important >> >> to >> >> > be able to have the option to watch a stream in different quality >> modes >> >> and >> >> > eventually in HTTP streaming instead of flash. At some point it will >> >> require >> >> > you to think about how to transcode the stream on server side et >> cetera. >> >> So >> >> > it is basically a server side project. However it is up to you to >> decide >> >> if >> >> > you want to apply for such a project. >> >> > >> >> > *How do you estimate this task? Is it the task for whole GSoC or just >> a >> >> > part? If it is for the whole GSoC, I could make it.* >> >> > => Hm yes sure we could make this task grow, however if you want to >> just >> >> do >> >> > this single tool you will have to give much more details about it so >> that >> >> > 3th parties understand what is involved in it so that it takes 4 >> months >> >> to >> >> > implement it. >> >> > >> >> > As far is I do understand you want to work with the UI. So your >> Proposal >> >> > could cover those tasks: >> >> > 1) Bandwidth / Network testing tool, >> >> > attached is a screenshot from such a tool, so that tool would have 5 >> >> > indicators: >> >> > Ports, Connection, Repeat time, Download Speed, Upload speed >> >> > You would need to create a server side servlet for testing the upload >> >> speed. >> >> > >> >> > 2) Add audio/video settings to user profile >> >> > User could adjust those settings in the Testing Application that pops >> up >> >> > before he enters the video conference room, That way he can record 5 >> >> seconds >> >> > and test on its own and then store the settings to his profile. >> >> > => You should add a small mockup what of what it should look like >> >> > >> >> > 3) Improve the video pods >> >> > I did not understand what you want to do here >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Sebastian >> >> > >> >> > 2012/4/2 German Grekhov <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sebastian, >> >> >> >> >> >> thanks for your fast answer. Ok, I have understood that video stream >> >> >> resolution auto-adjusting is unuseful feature. So, about your >> >> >> suggestions... >> >> >> >> >> >> > Adjustment of the stream and measuring bandwidth while >> conferencing is >> >> >> > basically a streaming server feature... >> >> >> > So if you are going to work on that, your task will be: >> >> >> > - analysing which events are available in Red5 >> >> >> > - defining which scenarios we can realise using those events and >> >> >> > features >> >> >> > in Red5 >> >> >> > - implementing such scenarios >> >> >> >> >> >> Have I understood right that upload stream from a user with a wide >> >> >> connection is with high quality, but then when it has gone to the >> >> >> server the quality of the download stream could be changed for a user >> >> >> with narrow connection? What do you think about the importance of the >> >> >> task? >> >> >> >> >> >> > A completely separated thing would be to implement an initial load >> >> >> > Tester: >> >> >> > A separated tool (comparable to SpeedTest) that checks if you have >> >> >> > sufficient down/upload rate, can connect to needed ports and >> measures >> >> >> > your >> >> >> > ping time. Such a "bandwidth detection tool" would be implemented >> as >> >> >> > standalong application as you would do that test even outside of >> >> >> > OpenMeetings. >> >> >> >> >> >> How do you estimate this task? Is it the task for whole GSoC or just >> a >> >> >> part? If it is for the whole GSoC, I could make it. >> >> >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, we have not much time because the proposal should be >> >> >> uploaded until the 6th of April, so I need harry up with this choice. >> >> >> >> >> >> German. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 2012/4/2 [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Hi German, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> thanks for the proposal! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Could you please explain a bit more detailed what you are going >> to do >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> what tools and methods you will be exactly using? For example for >> UI >> >> >> >> changes it is common that you might include a small mackup that >> >> >> >> describes >> >> >> >> the changes. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> About the automatic bandwidth detection / adjustment: >> >> >> >> I would like to know what process you imagine to adjust the >> >> bandwidth. >> >> >> >> To >> >> >> >> detect the bandwidth is one thing, however to change somebodys >> >> >> >> bandwidth >> >> >> >> you would need to re-publish his stream with different video >> >> settings. >> >> >> >> The >> >> >> >> width and height of the video has the biggest impact on bandwidth. >> >> >> >> However >> >> >> >> changing the video pod width/height "auto-magically" is no >> option... >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> user chooses that value. >> >> >> >> The bandwidth detection also cannot change the download rate of >> >> >> >> anybody, >> >> >> >> you can only influence the upload bandwidth. If you want to change >> >> >> >> somebodys download rate the only option you got is turning on/off >> >> video >> >> >> >> as >> >> >> >> we don't provide different streams available for each participant. >> >> >> >> Measuring the bandwidth while you are doing conferencing is also >> not >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> easy, you can hardly do load test permanently while conferencing >> as >> >> the >> >> >> >> bandwidth test will affect the conference (for example audio will >> >> >> >> stutter >> >> >> >> et cetera). >> >> >> >> So I wonder what exactly have you in mind ? What tools and methods >> >> are >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> going to use ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2012/4/2 German Grekhov <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hello. >> >> >> >>> I'm German Grekhov. I want to take a part in Google Summer of >> code >> >> >> >>> with the OpenMeetings project. >> >> >> >>> You could find and read my proposal here: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k0d70n0i-54pnsUgm7FycnHLI6v9yNSdZ_Md4iPDeFA/edit >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Everybody has the right of commenting this document. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Best regards, >> >> >> >>> German Grekhov. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Sebastian Wagner >> >> >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> >> >> >> http://www.openmeetings.de < >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/> >> >> >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de >> >> >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Sebastian Wagner >> >> >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> >> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de < >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ >> >> > >> >> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de >> >> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Sebastian Wagner >> >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de >> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de >> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Sebastian Wagner >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > http://www.openmeetings.de <http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > [email protected] >> > > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > http://www.openmeetings.de > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > [email protected]
