Minor update: There are some possibilities with HTML5 video with "Adaptive streaming"
You may find some matrix about the currently supported platforms here: http://www.longtailvideo.com/html5/#adaptive_streaming However this topic seems to be in its early days too. Sebastian 2012/1/28 [email protected] <[email protected]> > Hi Nick, > > I don't see any reliable framework or implementation that is > production ready and will provide a HTML5 solution for > Video-Conferencing. > A working HTML5 video-component does not mean that you can do > video-conferencing. It is just the component to playback the video. > The tricky thing is how to access the webcam and microphone. > HTML5-video is not really a streaming component. Its a progressive > download. Which actually just means that you download the video and > can start watching it while downloading. A Live Video cannot be > "downloaded-progressive" as the whole video does never exist. > You will need to code a native extension for every device to access > the cam/mic and to watch the video. There are examples of native apps > doing kind of conferencing. However those examples are all early beta > stage or proof of concepts. > > Sebastian > > 2012/1/27 Nick Nudell <[email protected]>: > > I understand those concerns and that my frame of reference is generally > US > > based. I don't think we should simply discount the iOS products as a > passing > > fad or as limited use devices. > > > > A significant number of US people are accessing the web with these > devices. > > Additionally, Flash (which is not Open Source) is in its last stages of > life > > for mobile... and Adobe has announced that developers should move to > HTML5 > > ( > http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/11/09/adobe-to-end-flash-support-for-mobile-phones-tablets/ > ). > > > > Have you seen the Ericcsson webKit project? It looks like it might do > much > > of what OpenMeetings does and is HTML5 > > (https://labs.ericsson.com/apis/web-real-time-communication/downloads) > > although it is built on Ubuntu right now. > > > > Also there is a good discussion of HTML5 support at > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video). > > > > Lastly, with OM project is it possible to also release it > > via http://www.adobe.com/devnet/logged_in/abansod_iphone.html? > > > > Cheers, > > Nick > > > > > > __ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ __ > > Nick Nudell, BA, NREMT-P > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 04:37, [email protected] < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Yes, > >> > >> well that is what makes OpenLaszlo or other JS frameworks such a > success, > >> you don't need to fight with the problems in the browser universe as the > >> JS-Framework should do it for you. > >> > >> About streaming in HTML5 there was recently a spec published and I even > >> blogged about it: > >> > >> > http://opensourcewebconferencing.blogspot.com/2011/10/review-real-time-specification-api-of.html > >> > >> The reason why I don't believe there will be a suitable OpenSource video > >> streaming solution in HTML5 soon is that, not even for pure video > playback > >> browser vendors have been able to establish an (open) standard / codec > in > >> that past 1-2 years. > >> There has been some "enthusiasm" around Google open sourcing VP8 > Codec... > >> however, after some months it turns out that still 99% watching Youtube > >> videos using Flash-Technology. I don't know any significant website > except > >> Mozilla Firefox announcement videos that use HTML5-Video. > >> Things might be different on mobile devices where there is no flash at > >> all. > >> > >> Sebastian > >> > >> 2012/1/27 <[email protected]> > >> > >>> Indeed - HTML5 is something brand new. So new that only a few have it. > >>> The big advantage why I prefer Open Meetings to other - installed - > systems > >>> is: No NAT issues, no installation hazzles. Having to install the > latest > >>> Chrome or Firefox is counterproductive. Flash is there (unless you're a > >>> iPhone/iPad addict) > >>> > >>> In the long run WebRTC will be the choice - there is no doubt about it > as > >>> it is open and standards based and will offer features that Flash so > far > >>> doesn't (e.g. P2P). What I wonder is, if there is an transision > technology > >>> such as a Flash wrapper to bring WebRTC to older browsers. For merely > >>> playing video- there is. And I remember having seen a camera/microphone > >>> catcher somewhere. Anyway OpenLazlo should be convinced to play with > that. > >>> > >>> For the time being, I have no iPhone/iPad folks around bugging me - so > I > >>> can live with flash. I have other issues I'd like to see resolved > earlier. > >>> But it looks cool > >>> > >>> Conrad > >>> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > >>> > Datum: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:39:14 +0100 > >>> > Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >>> > An: [email protected] > >>> > Betreff: Re: Any HTML5 plans? > >>> > >>> > Hallo Nick, > >>> > > >>> > the client side of OpenMeetings is build with OpenLaszlo which > concept > >>> > it > >>> > is to write the code once in a XML styled approach called .lzx and > the > >>> > compiler then either generates SWF or Ajax from it: > >>> > > http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps4.9/laszlo-explorer/index.html?lzr=dhtml > >>> > > >>> > But as there is no Camera/Microphone in DHTML and the specification > are > >>> > quite far away from any standards that are implemented accross > >>> > platforms > >>> > it > >>> > does not make so much sense from my point of view to compile to Ajax. > >>> > > >>> > Sebastian > >>> > > >>> > 2012/1/26 Nick Nudell <[email protected]> > >>> > > >>> > > Hi all, > >>> > > I'm curious if there are any plans to port OM over to HTML/js > rather > >>> > than > >>> > > Flash based? Flash might be around for a couple more years but only > >>> > > for > >>> > > those who have machines that support it. > >>> > > > >>> > > Thanks, > >>> > > Nick > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Sebastian Wagner > >>> > http://www.openmeetings.de > >>> > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > >>> > http://www.webbase-design.de > >>> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >>> > [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sebastian Wagner > >> http://www.openmeetings.de > >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > >> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> [email protected] > > > > > > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > http://www.openmeetings.de > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > [email protected] > -- Sebastian Wagner http://www.openmeetings.de http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com [email protected]
