So happy to report,

It was Windows 7 Firewall turned on inside a trusted network. They had said it was off, but it wasn't. Works perfectly.

Thanks for the sounding board,

-Jon

On 2/15/2012 10:43 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Hi Jon,

the 2 second delay is latency, you can't compare Skype audio conferences as this needs much less bandwidth compared to Flash conferencing.

You should watch your network throughput while conferencing, it might be a bottleneck somewhere betwee:
You <=> OpenMeetings server <=> Participant

The "<=>" can be either an upload OR download bottleneck as the data always is processed in both directions.

Sebastian

2012/2/15 Jon Cyr <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    Hi All,

    That's super, just the news I was hoping for.  I've just installed
    this at my first client.  They're a small company with four
    offices across the US, and would like to use this for company
    meetings.  They've also expressed and interest to do some sales
    webinars with their customers to share new product info.  Maybe
    you should write that up for your website, it helped me.

    So far, it works great... I have one glitch where a person is
    delayed in the conversation, about 2 seconds behind.  At first, I
    suspected their older VPN connection they were all surfing
    through.  But then a Skype call worked without delay, so that
    didn't make much sense.  So, I no longer think it's a latency
    issue on the VPN network, my next step is to check out the
    offending client, his Flash Player version, and any
    Anti-Virus/Firewall software he may have.

    Any clues to a 2 second delay, and what's interesting, it might be
    only downstream, because I hear my own voice in the remote
    computer's speakers (although I was wearing a headset, he couldn't
    hear his own voice, delayed)

    Any offending software on WinXP or Win7 that causes problems?

    Thanks,

    Jon




    On 2/15/2012 5:23 AM, [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
    Hi,

    we have done tests with 120 people in conferene room type
    "restricted". With 2-3 presenters audio/video + screensharing.
    There was no possibility to test with more users as we had no
    more ressources / computers available.

    Additionally we have done tests with a customer that runs
    webinars 250 people in a single room, roomtype "retricted".
    Customers could fill a feedback form after the webinar with a
    section for techincal problems.
    Result was, that some users did report they had issues in loading
    the initial slide of the conference room.
    That started when there was more then 200 people arriving at the
    same second/minute in the restricted room.

    So the results so far are that restricted room type can handle
    max 150 users, the bottleneck as result of the tests are:
    1) As the others explained, your hadrware and server bandwidth of
    course
    2) At some point the number of users arriving at the same second
    in the conference room, so you should not invite 10.000 people
    for 9.00 p.m. in the conference room, as if 1000 people at
    _exactly_ 9.00 and 0 seconds click on the conference room this
    can lead to a problem
    3) There are no test results available for more then 250 people,
    so far there have been no technical reason to say "more then 250
    people is not possible" but just because there has been no test
    with more then 250 physical browser windows loggedin into a
    single conference room.

    4) The roomtype desigend for large meetings is room type
    "restricted" it has a special implementation of the user list
    that buffers incoming users before re-rendering the user-list to
    prevent the problems with the 50 or 100 users arriving at the
    same time. Also the user-list type is different as it uses some
    paging mechanism to only render the visible area. Roomtype
    "conference" and "audience" do not have those optimizations.

    Sebastian

    2012/2/15 Norbert Haag <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>

        Hi Jon,

        We are starting with openmeetings and therefore cannot come
        up with “real life” experiences so far. However, we tested
        the system and from a technical perspective it doesn’t
        prevent you from having 100 or more attendees.

        The challenge with such amounts of attendees is not the
        system and even not really the hardware –though a dedicated
        server with at least 8G is preferred- but the bandwidth you have.

        Bandwidth here means the bandwidth the server has, as it has
        to stream the data to each attendee. This is the biggest
        bottleneck in the whole process and not the system or even
        the hardware.

        *Von:*Jon Cyr [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>]
        *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 14. Februar 2012 22:58
        *An:* [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Betreff:* Re: AW: What's the largest meeting you've run

        Hi Norbert,

        It means... in non-technical terms, who's holding meetings,
        how many people...

        Real examples.

        For instance... My name is Fred, I hold weekly web-seminars
        or webinars with over 100 people, it works great.

        Who is using this?  Share an anonymous story of how it's
        going.  Don't worry, you don't have to prove it, you're not
        on the hook.

        I have a server with unlimited bandwidth on a meter, and 8G
        of RAM on a 4 processor CPU, with 64bit Ubuntu LTS Lucid,
        anybody have something close to tell me what I can expect.

        -Jon


        On 2/7/2012 3:14 PM, Norbert Haag wrote:

        *Von:*Jon Cyr [mailto:[email protected]]
        *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 7. Februar 2012 20:53
        *An:* [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Betreff:* What's the largest meeting you've run

        Hey,

        I'm new to OpenMeetings, seems great.  But I haven't pushed
        the system.

        If you would...

         1. What's your largest meeting?

        What can your werver handle= (bandwith etc.)

         2. Webinar or Interactive Meeting?

        Uhm what do you mean by webinars?

         3. Rough or Avg Video Settings?

        ?  If that means how big a video you can send, the answer is
        depends on you upload bandwidth (means is not an issue of
        openmeeetings but your capability to feed=

         4. Server size, rough?

        Depends on what  you want. But do not start below 2 GB  of
        dedicated space (unless recoding is nothing you want to do=

         5. How long?

        How long what?

        Thanks,

        Jon

-- *Jon Cyr*
        Cloudy IT, Warwick RI
        877-256-8398 x21
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        CloudyIT.com <http://www.cloudyIT.com/>

        Cheers




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    http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
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