My attorneys checked this out pretty carefully.  Sipro represented, in 
writing, that they are the only proxy for all known owners of g.729 
annex a and annex b.  None-the-less, I'll forward your concerns back to 
my attorneys  for a double-double  on this.

I'm actually expecting a written "legal opinion" on the matter this week.

J



Steve Underwood wrote:
> Jac Barben wrote:
>   
>> All:
>>
>> Because G.729 is so important to my world, I've contacted each of Intel 
>> and Sipro.  For the benefit of others that may need licensing here are 
>> the costs and contacts:
>>
>> Intel:
>> http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/download/locations/index.htm#perflib
>> $199 one time and $80 a year.
>>   
>>     
> This part is trivial. :-)
>   
>> Sipro:  http://sipro.com
>> Sipro is handling the G.729/G.723 patents for all those that claim have 
>> claimed ownership: France Telecom, Mitsubishi, Electric Corporation, 
>> Nippon Telephone and Telegraph Corporation,Universite de Sherbrooke (The 
>> G.729 Consortium), NEC and Nokia.
>> Typically Sipro charges an annual fee per port of use.  The killer here 
>> is the minimum - 1000 ports.  Your entry fee is: US $9,884.
>>   
>>     
> Its worse than that. NEC and Nokia are not actually represented by 
> Sipro, and you must pay them separately. All Sipro do is tell you who 
> you need to contact. NEC and Nokia want about as much as Sipro, so you 
> can more or less double the prices Sipro quote. Unless something has 
> changed recently, the price you quote is an illusion brought on by the 
> confusing way they present things. I seem to remember it works out 
> somewhat higher, and then you double it for the NEC and Nokia part.
>   
>> I'm pretty certain that I'm going to have to step up to these costs.  To 
>> that end, I am thinking of building a library of the Intel/Sipro work 
>> for use with OpenPBX and distributing the libraries for commercial use, 
>> as permitted by the Intel/Sipro licensing, at a fee similar to the 
>> structure defined by Digium. 
>>
>> Is there any interest here or am I the only one with commercial use plans?
>>   
>>     
> We know this needs sorting out. A telephony platform without G.729 just 
> won't fly at this time. The Freeswitch people have the same issue, and 
> we hope we can work with them to a mutual solution. There is a company, 
> whose web site name I forgot, which is providing G.729 for small users 
> like us. There web site makes it look like they are dead, but the 
> Freeswitch guys have been in touch with them, and it seems they are 
> still active.
>
> Since we have plenty to do right now, I've just been waiting to see what 
> Freeswitch dredges up as a workable solution. We intend to support these 
> things through pipes, with the transcoder running as a separate process. 
> That completely avoids licencing issues with our pure GPL core, and the 
> overhead is no big deal when you compare it against the compute cost of 
> the codec.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
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