Thomas,

>to get all OpenPKG packages up'n'running you usually need some
>additional vendor packages first. We've carefully documented the ones
we
>used to make our efforts most reproducable. The 00README file located
in
>the BIN directory of every release lists the envirment used to
produce
>the binaries, i.e. for OpenPKG v1.2 have a look at
>
>    ftp://ftp.openpkg.org/release/1.2/BIN/00README
>
>It lists that we started Solaris 9 with "entire distribution".

Well, Thomas. I agree that trying to get by with no vendor packages is
most probably futile. But especially in the case of Solaris that
installs about 80% unneeded and most of the time unwanted stuff, I
consider a requirement of "entire distribution", let's say
"unfortunate". For me this means I have to do a lot of hardening (or
rather "tightening") and patching of components that aren't required
at all.

Of course, on the other hand I do realize that you (plural: the
development team) should rather spend your time bringing forward
OpenPKG instead of figuring out over and over again whether this or
that out of over 500 packages is really needed. (SUNWreq + real base
requirements ~140 packages, SUNWCxall ~660).

So again, I would like to point out that I really, really appreciate
what you are doing. It's just that the "entire distribution" approach
makes my life harder. So much harder, actually, that I would lose the
major benefit of OpenPKG for me, which would be a fast, simple trusted
and open patch mechanism in contrast to what Solaris provides -
because I would still have to patch a huge Solaris system.  So I will
either try and keep OpenPKG running on minimal installs. If that isn't
feasible I will have to look into an alternative to OpenPKG which I
would not like to do.

Let me suggest an approach that might be beneficial to all of us: Once
my setup is stable, I will publish my efforts and the resulting
dependency lists. The downside for the team is that I will ask a
couple of questions and post problems on your mailing lists that would
perhaps not exist in an "entire distribution" setup. Please discuss
this with the other team members. If you (again, the team) feel that I
cause too much work for you, let me know and I will shut up - and not
take offense, because I understand that I want to use OpenPKG for
other reasons than you originally designed it for. Promise.

Cheers,
Ingo

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