On 22/07/14 19:58, Christian Svensson wrote:

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Hi Christian,

Thanks for the comments. I suggest that for now detailed discussion is
probably not particularly helpful - it is heading down pretty much the
same track as few years ago.

> The OpenRISC organisation is "owned" by a couple of active
> maintainers. I think that's the best solution. Having a real corporate
> entity "own" stuff just makes it harder. It might be useful if it
> comes to actually seek funding, but I would vote for always have the
> control in the community, never a formal organisation in a single
> country. That is however I think a separate topic.

openrisc.net is owned by Jonas Bonn. He is the guy responsible for
OpenRISC Linux. Its ongoing development depends on how much time he has
available for it and the degree to which he wishes to stay involved.

Now you will be the person running everything.

Ownership by individuals accountable only to themselves is never
sustainable, not matter how pure and saintly that individual is. Which
is why every major FOSS project in the world has some form of community
foundation with a clear legal framework. Such a framework is essential
if you ever want any funding.

> Now for ORSoC.
> Is this still the name of the company? orsoc.se just redirects to
> kncminer.com. All older orsoc.se links I find are gone, including
> documentation that was once available. Any attempt I've made to
> contact the maintainers of OpenCores (which I assume is ORSoC) has
> remain unanswered. Someone is probably still moderating the forum, but
> that's as far as it goes for life signs. I feel very uneasy about
> this.

openrisc.org is owned by ORSoC AB, which was originally a general
electronics design house focusing on OpenRISC based developments.  KNC
Miner is a JV with Kennemar & Cole AB to build bitcoin mining hardware,
and from what I understand ORSoC is putting its effort exclusively into
this now.

You should contact Marcus Erlandsson, CTO and founder (of both
organizations). In the first instance try KNC Miner's number +46 8559
253 20.

> For what it's worth, I've been contacted by numerous people off-list
> that think this is a great idea but asked to be anonymous.

Why do they need to remain anonymous - surely there is nothing to hide
about want a reorganization of a community project. The major
contributors (people like Julius, Stefan, Olof etc) have never been shy
of making their views well known.

> I appreciate your input as always Jeremy, and you have much more
> experience with the community in these matters - but I think the
> current approach is trying too hard to please everyone and ends up
> going nowhere.

The current approach is working reasonably well. I'm just trying to stop
another screw up that loses us good contributors yet again. I'll just
stand back and hope the fallout won't be so bad this time.

But if it would help, do feel free to discuss with me by telephone.

Best wishes,


Jeremy

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