The following changes(adding a check for int_rc == 0) works, which may be 
answer of #1 below:

        if ((int_rc == -1) ||  (int_rc == 0)) {
                /* No relevant file info found. Recovery fail */
                TRACE("%s: lgs_get_file_params_h Fail", __FUNCTION__);
                rc_out = -1;
                goto done;
        }

But #2 still remains unanswered.

Thanks
-Nagu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nagendra Kumar
> Sent: 04 February 2016 11:56
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH 0 of 1] Review Request for log: add support for
> cloud resilience feature [#1179]
> 
> Got it !!
> 
> When lgs_get_file_params_h() returns 0, then par_out.curFileName is NULL.
> After the following statement execution:
> stream->logFileCurrent = par_out.curFileName;
> 
> stream->logFileCurrent is NULL and then the following TRACE tries to access
> it(stream->logFileCurrent.c_str()) and it crashes:
> 
>         TRACE("Out: curFileSize = %u, logRecordId = %u, logFileCurrent = %s",
>               stream->curFileSize, stream->logRecordId, stream-
> >logFileCurrent.c_str());
> 
> So, there are two things:
> 1.    Handling requires if lgs_get_file_params_h() returns 0.
> 2.    Why it is returning 0? Am I missing some configuration for log
> service?
> 
> Thanks
> -Nagu
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nagendra Kumar
> > Sent: 04 February 2016 11:47
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH 0 of 1] Review Request for log: add
> > support for cloud resilience feature [#1179]
> >
> > It is crashing :
> >
> > Core was generated by `/usr/local/lib/opensaf/osaflogd --
> > tracemask=0xffffffff'.
> > Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
> > #0  0x00007f48672c2812 in __strlen_sse2 () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> > (gdb) bt
> > #0  0x00007f48672c2812 in __strlen_sse2 () from /lib64/libc.so.6
> > #1  0x000000000042b659 in log_stream_open_file_restore(log_stream*) ()
> > #2  0x0000000000412665 in lgs_imm_init_configStreams(lgs_cb*) ()
> > #3  0x00000000004075e3 in main () at lgs_main.cc:403
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Nagu
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nagendra Kumar
> > > Sent: 03 February 2016 22:39
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH 0 of 1] Review Request for log: add
> > > support for cloud resilience feature [#1179]
> > >
> > > Hi Vu,
> > >              It is attached in my previous email. Any way attaching
> > > the
> > > same(osaflogd) again.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > -Nagu
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Cc: [email protected], [email protected],
> > > [email protected], [email protected]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 5:39:23 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai,
> > > Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi
> > > Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH 0 of 1] Review Request for log: add
> > > support for cloud resilience feature [#1179]
> > >
> > > Hi Nagu,
> > >
> > > Can you please send me the trace log of osaflogd? Thanks.
> > >
> > > Regards, Vu
> > >
> > > Quoting Nagendra Kumar <[email protected]>:
> > >
> > > > Hi Vu,
> > > >         I was testing this Amf patch along with other "Cluster 
> > > > Resilience"
> > > > patches, I am finding difficulties in making Log service coming up.
> > > > Can you please check the problem with this patch(if any).
> > > >
> > > > Attached is the Log sv trace and below is the syslog:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmloadd: NO Load starting Feb  3
> > > > 17:31:13
> > > > PM_SC-1 osafimmloadd: NO ***** Loading from XML file imm.xml at
> > > > /etc/opensaf ***** Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmloadd: NO The
> > > > class OpensafImm has been created since it was missing from the
> > > > imm.xml load file Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmloadd: IN Class
> > > > OsafImmPbeRt created Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmloadd: NO
> The
> > > > class OsafImmPbeRt has been created since it was missing from the
> > > > imm.xml load file Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmloadd: NO The
> > > > opensafImm=opensafImm,safApp=safImmService object of class
> > > OpensafImm
> > > > has been created since it was missing from the imm.xml load file
> > > > Feb
> > > > 3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO Ccb 1 COMMITTED
> > > (IMMLOADER)
> > > > Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO Closing admin owner
> > > > IMMLOADER id(1), loading of IMM done Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1
> > > > osafimmnd[18311]: NO NODE STATE-> IMM_NODE_FULLY_AVAILABLE
> > > 2712 Feb  3
> > > > 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO RepositoryInitModeT is
> > > > SA_IMM_INIT_FROM_FILE Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1
> osafimmnd[18311]:
> > > WA IMM
> > > > Access Control mode is DISABLED!
> > > > Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO
> opensafImmNostdFlags
> > > > changed to: 0xf6 Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO
> > > > Epoch set to 2 in ImmModel Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1
> > > > osafimmd[18299]: NO
> > ACT:
> > > > New Epoch for IMMND process at node 2010f old epoch: 1  new
> > > > epoch:2 Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmd[18299]: NO Ruling epoch
> > > > changed
> > > > to:2 Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmd[18299]: NO Attached Nodes:1
> > > Accepted
> > > > nodes:1 KnownVeteran:0 doReply:0 Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1
> > > osafimmloadd:
> > > > NO Load ending normally Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]:
> > NO
> > > > SERVER STATE:
> > > > IMM_SERVER_LOADING_SERVER --> IMM_SERVER_READY Feb  3
> > 17:31:13
> > > PM_SC-1
> > > > osafimmnd[18311]: NO ABT ImmModel received scAbsenceAllowed
> 900
> > > Feb  3
> > > > 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osaflogd[18324]: Started Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1
> > > > osaflogd[18324]: NO LOGSV_DATA_GROUPNAME not found Feb  3
> > > 17:31:13
> > > > PM_SC-1 osaflogd[18324]: NO LOG root directory is:
> > > > "/var/log/opensaf/saflog"
> > > > Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osaflogd[18324]: NO LOG data group is: ""
> > > > Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osaflogd[18324]: NO LGS_MBCSV_VERSION =
> 5
> > > Feb
> > > > 3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO Implementer connected:
> > > > 1 (safLogService) <2, 2010f>
> > > > Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO implementer for class
> > > > 'OpenSafLogConfig' is safLogService => class extent is safe.
> > > > Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO implementer for class
> > > > 'SaLogStreamConfig' is safLogService => class extent is safe.
> > > > Feb  3 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO Implementer locally
> > > > disconnected. Marking it as doomed 1 <2, 2010f> (safLogService)
> > > > Feb
> > > > 3
> > > > 17:31:13 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO Implementer disconnected 1
> > <2,
> > > > 2010f> (safLogService) Feb  3 17:31:53 PM_SC-1 opensafd[18248]: ER
> > > > Timed-out for response from LOGD Feb  3 17:31:53 PM_SC-1
> > > > opensafd[18248]: ER Feb  3 17:31:53 PM_SC-1 opensafd[18248]: ER
> > > > Going for recovery Feb  3 17:31:53 PM_SC-1 opensafd[18248]: ER
> > > > Trying To RESPAWN /usr/local/lib/opensaf/clc-cli/osaf-logd attempt
> > > > #1 Feb  3
> > > > 17:31:53 PM_SC-1 opensafd[18248]: ER Sending SIGABRT to LOGD,
> > > > pid=18324, (origin parent pid=18319) Feb  3 17:31:53 PM_SC-1
> > > > opensafd[18248]: ER Sending SIGKILL to LOGD,
> > > > pid=18319
> > > > Feb  3 17:32:08 PM_SC-1 osaflogd[18359]: Started Feb  3 17:32:08
> > > > PM_SC-1 osaflogd[18359]: NO LOGSV_DATA_GROUPNAME not found
> > Feb
> > > 3
> > > > 17:32:08 PM_SC-1 osaflogd[18359]: NO LOG root directory is:
> > > > "/var/log/opensaf/saflog"
> > > > Feb  3 17:32:08 PM_SC-1 osaflogd[18359]: NO LOG data group is: ""
> > > > Feb  3 17:32:08 PM_SC-1 osaflogd[18359]: NO LGS_MBCSV_VERSION =
> 5
> > > Feb
> > > > 3 17:32:08 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO Implementer connected:
> > > > 2 (safLogService) <14, 2010f>
> > > > Feb  3 17:32:08 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO Implementer locally
> > > > disconnected. Marking it as doomed 2 <14, 2010f> (safLogService)
> > > > Feb
> > > > 3 17:32:08 PM_SC-1 osafimmnd[18311]: NO Implementer disconnected
> 2
> > > > <14, 2010f> (safLogService)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > -Nagu
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Vu Minh Nguyen [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > >> Sent: 28 January 2016 10:11
> > > >> To: [email protected]; [email protected];
> > > Mathivanan
> > > >> Naickan Palanivelu
> > > >> Cc: [email protected]
> > > >> Subject: Re: [devel] [PATCH 0 of 1] Review Request for log: add
> > > >> support for cloud resilience feature [#1179]
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> I forgot adding information. To build the #1179 patch
> > > >> successfully, need
> > > >> #777 pushed.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards, Vu.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > > >> >From: Vu Minh Nguyen [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > >> >Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 11:13 AM
> > > >> >To: [email protected]; [email protected];
> > > >> >[email protected]
> > > >> >Cc: [email protected]
> > > >> >Subject: [devel] [PATCH 0 of 1] Review Request for log: add
> > > >> >support for
> > > >> cloud
> > > >> >resilience feature [#1179]
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Summary: log: add support for cloud resilience feature [#1179]
> > > >> >Review request for Trac Ticket(s): #1179 Peer Reviewer(s):
> > > >> >Lennart, Anders, Mathi Pull request to: Lennart Affected
> > > >> >branch(es): Default Development
> > > >> >branch: Default
> > > >> >
> > > >> >--------------------------------
> > > >> >Impacted area       Impact y/n
> > > >> >--------------------------------
> > > >> > Docs                    n
> > > >> > Build system            n
> > > >> > RPM/packaging           n
> > > >> > Configuration files     n
> > > >> > Startup scripts         n
> > > >> > SAF services            y
> > > >> > OpenSAF services        n
> > > >> > Core libraries          n
> > > >> > Samples                 n
> > > >> > Tests                   n
> > > >> > Other                   n
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Comments (indicate scope for each "y" above):
> > > >> >---------------------------------------------
> > > >> > <<EXPLAIN/COMMENT THE PATCH SERIES HERE>>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >changeset 90a6bd73b83a52d561572d171a7042ac319511cb
> > > >> >Author:       Lennart Lund <[email protected]>
> > > >> >Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:20:27 +0700
> > > >> >
> > > >> >      log: add support for cloud resilience feature [#1179]
> > > >> >
> > > >> >      The patch makes LOG service be able to handle the case that
> > > >> >both SC nodes
> > > >> >      are down at the same time. When one or both nodes go up
> again
> > > >> >the
> > > >> log
> > > >> >      service must be able to resume its work preferably without
> > > >> >actions
> > > >> by
> > > >> >the
> > > >> >      clients.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >      A log client should not have to be aware of if one or both SC
> > > >> >nodes
> > > >> are
> > > >> >      down. The only thing that should happen is that a TRY AGAIN
> > > >> >(and in some
> > > >> >      cases TIMEOUT) returned. It is the responsibility of the client
> > > >> >to
> > > >> decide
> > > >> >      how to handle this.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Added Files:
> > > >> >------------
> > > >> > osaf/libs/agents/saf/lga/lga_state.c
> > > >> > osaf/libs/agents/saf/lga/lga_state.h
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_recov.cc
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_recov.h
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/README-HEADLESS
> > > >> > tests/logsv/tet_Log_recov.c
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Complete diffstat:
> > > >> >------------------
> > > >> > osaf/libs/agents/saf/lga/Makefile.am       |     6 +-
> > > >> > osaf/libs/agents/saf/lga/lga.h             |    53 +++-
> > > >> > osaf/libs/agents/saf/lga/lga_api.c         |   858
> > > >> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
> > > >> > osaf/libs/agents/saf/lga/lga_mds.c         |    46 ++-
> > > >> > osaf/libs/agents/saf/lga/lga_state.c       |   670
> > > >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> > osaf/libs/agents/saf/lga/lga_state.h       |    41 ++
> > > >> > osaf/libs/agents/saf/lga/lga_util.c        |    94 +++++-
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/README             |     2 -
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/README-HEADLESS    |   230
> ++++++++++++++
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/Makefile.am    |     6 +-
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs.h          |    12 +
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_cb.h       |    14 +
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_evt.cc     |    66 +++-
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_evt.h      |     5 +
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_file.cc    |     5 +
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_file.h     |     1 +
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_filehdl.cc |   423
> > > >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_filehdl.h  |    21 +
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_imm.cc     |   541
> > > >> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_main.cc    |   134 +++++++-
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_mbcsv.cc   |    22 +-
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_recov.cc   |   748
> > > >> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_recov.h    |    37 ++
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_stream.cc  |    99 ++++-
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_stream.h   |    30 +-
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_util.cc    |    50 ++-
> > > >> > osaf/services/saf/logsv/lgs/lgs_util.h     |     4 +
> > > >> > tests/logsv/Makefile.am                    |     1 +
> > > >> > tests/logsv/README                         |     4 +
> > > >> > tests/logsv/logtest.c                      |   290 ++++++++++++++++-
> > > >> > tests/logsv/logtest.h                      |    57 +++
> > > >> > tests/logsv/logtestfr.c                    |     6 +-
> > > >> > tests/logsv/saflogtest.c                   |    46 ++-
> > > >> > tests/logsv/tet_Log_misc.c                 |    24 +-
> > > >> > tests/logsv/tet_Log_recov.c                |  1837
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> +++++
> > > >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >> > 35 files changed, 6069 insertions(+), 414 deletions(-)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Testing Commands:
> > > >> >-----------------
> > > >> > Test suite #9 and #10 are added to test this feature,  but
> > > >> >needs to have IMM (#1625) and AMF (#1620) pushed.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For now, to test it, can hard code "lgs_cb.scAbsenceAllowed =
> > > >> > 1", to make logsv enter headless mode, then run all test suites.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Testing, Expected Results:
> > > >> >--------------------------
> > > >> > All tests PASS
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Conditions of Submission:
> > > >> >-------------------------
> > > >> > Get ack from reviewers. Hope getting them within 03 weeks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Arch      Built     Started    Linux distro
> > > >> >-------------------------------------------
> > > >> >mips        n          n
> > > >> >mips64      n          n
> > > >> >x86         n          n
> > > >> >x86_64      n          n
> > > >> >powerpc     n          n
> > > >> >powerpc64   n          n
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Reviewer Checklist:
> > > >> >-------------------
> > > >> >[Submitters: make sure that your review doesn't trigger any
> > > >> >checkmarks!]
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Your checkin has not passed review because (see checked entries):
> > > >> >
> > > >> >___ Your RR template is generally incomplete; it has too many
> > > >> >blank
> > > entries
> > > >> >    that need proper data filled in.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >___ You have failed to nominate the proper persons for review
> > > >> >and
> > push.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >___ Your patches do not have proper short+long header
> > > >> >
> > > >> >___ You have grammar/spelling in your header that is unacceptable.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >___ You have exceeded a sensible line length in your
> > > >> headers/comments/text.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >___ You have failed to put in a proper Trac Ticket # into your
> commits.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >___ You have incorrectly put/left internal data in your
> comments/files
> > > >> >    (i.e. internal bug tracking tool IDs, product names etc)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >___ You have not given any evidence of testing beyond basic
> > > >> >build
> > tests.
> > > >> >    Demonstrate some level of runtime or other sanity testing.
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> > > >> >___ You have ^M present in some of your files. These have to be
> > > removed.
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> > > >> >    cosmetic code cleanup changes. These have to be separate
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> > > results
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> > > >> >
> > > >> >___ Your changes affect user manual and documentation, your
> > > >> >patch
> > > series
> > > >> >    do not contain the patch that updates the Doxygen manual.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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