Hi Minh,
>> since locking sequence must go through the sg fsm code while rta problem is 
>> still there              
May not be; by SG locking, I mean we can just send delete to all assignments, 
we can work on it later.

>> I have just attached to ticket the trace files for your reference, amfd has 
>> succeeded to remove the active absent susi (for this ticket) with the patch 
>> of #2477
I think we should avoid changing the core logic and focus on how to extract 
information, which is lost in RTA update.
As of now, we can easily avoid the situation by invalidating SG and later we 
can work on permanent solution.

Thanks
-Nagu

> -----Original Message-----
> From: minh chau [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 09 June 2017 07:06
> To: Nagendra Kumar; [email protected]; Praveen Malviya;
> [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] amf: Replace osafassert by log_warning to avoid
> cyclic reboot [#2477]
> 
> Hi Nagu,
> 
> In the situation of this ticket, we have 2 active susi(s), one is absent susi 
> from
> sc, another one is real susi from pl. We can have a check to avoid restoring
> the active absent susi if there is a real active susi already, but I feel 
> doing this
> is not the way that amfd has been encouraged to use sg fsm to recover from
> headless. The skeleton of headless recovery has built up on using sg fsm
> node_fail(), we can add a check of 2 active susi(s), but it is not the only 
> form
> of rta problem, there should be many variant symptom. We need to enhance
> the sg fsm code for a wider coverage.
> Locking the sg itself is one option, my feeling is that locking sg may not 
> work
> as expected, since locking sequence must go through the sg fsm code while
> rta problem is still there. I think we need to failover all absent susi(s) 
> (by using
> sg fsm node_fail()) before amfd can do anything further.
> I have just attached to ticket the trace files for your reference, amfd has
> succeeded to remove the active absent susi (for this ticket) with the patch of
> #2477
> 
> Thanks,
> Minh
> 
> On 08/06/17 21:25, Nagendra Kumar wrote:
> > Hi Minh,
> >             We can add a check if there are more than 2 Act SUSI(on this
> particular situation) in 2N red model, then we can avoid to call fsm
> later(based on headless_validation) of that SG or take some action like
> locking the SG itself(we can do it in #2310).
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Nagu
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: minh chau [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: 08 June 2017 06:44
> >> To: Nagendra Kumar; [email protected]; Praveen Malviya;
> >> [email protected]
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] amf: Replace osafassert by log_warning to
> >> avoid cyclic reboot [#2477]
> >>
> >> Hi Nagu,
> >>
> >> It can be viewed as a defect from perspective of a user who has been
> >> using the SC absence. In the scenario of reported ticket, there was
> >> no admin operation on going while stopping both controllers. The user
> >> just simply stopped both SCs, the problem occurred due to failover
> >> during both SC going down, and it is from spare SUs deployment in 2N.
> >> The RTA mentioned in PR doc was mainly meant to the additional
> >> attributes in
> >> #1725 (osafAmfSISUFsmState, osafAmfSGSuOperationList,
> >> osafAmfSUSwitch), but you are also right that we can view as an
> >> enhancement since the assignment SUSI is RTA anyway.
> >> I think the problem is hard and agree that we need more thoughts how
> >> to handle such cases comprehensively (maybe #2310), for now let's fix
> >> the problem in a simple way as much as we can.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Minh
> >>
> >> On 07/06/17 19:10, Nagendra Kumar wrote:
> >>> Hi Minh,
> >>>           I updated the ticket with the following details, we need to
> >> check with more granular levels, how to handle such cases (may be in
> >> an enhancement ticket):
> >>> =====================
> >>> Also, to note, it is documented as limitations in Amf PR Doc as
> >>> below, so
> >> this ticket qualifies as Enhancement (could have been #2416 as well):
> >>> 2.2.11.3 Limitations
> >>> . Possible loss of RTA updates and SI assignment messages If both
> >>> SCs go down abruptly (SCs are immediately powered-off for instance),
> >>> AMFD
> >> could fail to update RTA to IMM, the SI assignment messages sent from
> >> AMFND could not reach to AMFD, or vice versa. In such cases, recovery
> >> could be impossible, applications may have inappropriate assignment
> states.
> >>> ========================
> >>>
> >>> What do you think?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> -Nagu
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: minh chau [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>>> Sent: 06 June 2017 16:35
> >>>> To: Nagendra Kumar; [email protected]; Praveen Malviya;
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>> Cc: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] amf: Replace osafassert by log_warning to
> >>>> avoid cyclic reboot [#2477]
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Nagu,
> >>>>
> >>>> At the beginning, I thought the osafassert(s) were there to prevent
> >>>> a weird thing continues to happen unpredictably. When those
> >>>> osafassert(s) are hit, the active controller reboots and the
> >>>> standby will be ok when the standby takes over active role. But in
> >>>> fact, the new active also gets into these osafassert(s) and cluster
> >>>> is facing cyclic reboot of controllers.
> >>>> I think the osafassert(s) would help if the SU(s) are deployed on
> >>>> controllers, but if SU(s) are deployed in payloads, the cyclic
> >>>> reboot should be happening.
> >>>>
> >>>> In addition to replacing the osafassert(s), the @stby_susi now
> >>>> ensures it must always point to a STANDBY susi, callers of
> >>>> avd_sg_2n_act_susi() are mostly in 2n SG Fsm code that already take
> >>>> care of @stby_susi as null and not-null. By doing this, the problem
> >>>> in this ticket has gone, and it should work with existing cases as
> >>>> @stby_susi should truly point to a STANDBY one.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have another approach, please let me know, I can try it out.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Minh
> >>>>
> >>>> On 06/06/17 19:53, Nagendra Kumar wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Minh,
> >>>>>                 I think, we need to avoid this situation by doing 
> >>>>> something
> >>>> else. These logics are kept for putting checks and balances for not
> >>>> happening such situations, in my opinion, we shouldn't alter these
> logics.
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> -Nagu
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Minh Chau [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>>>>> Sent: 02 June 2017 14:54
> >>>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected];
> >>>>>> [email protected]; [email protected]
> >>>>>> Cc: [email protected]; Minh Chau
> >>>>>> Subject: [PATCH 1/1] amf: Replace osafassert by log_warning to
> >>>>>> avoid
> >>>> cyclic
> >>>>>> reboot [#2477]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In large cluster, the IMM sync calls mostly take no effect when
> >>>>>> both SCs abruptly go down, thus amfd may leaves the susi
> >>>>>> assignments in amfnd
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> IMM in a very unexpected states.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The scenario is same as #2416, but in #2477 amfd can also see 2
> >>>>>> ACTIVE assignments for both SUs of a 2N SG. That leads to
> >>>>>> osafassert(), causes node reboot, and the same osafassert()
> >>>>>> repeatedly happens after node comes up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Patch replaces the osafassert() with LOG_WA, reinforces the
> >>>>>> checking of @stby_susi in avd_sg_2n_act_susi(). Also, a fix
> >>>>>> avnd_diq_rec_check_buffered_msg() is needed in this scenario
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>     src/amf/amfd/sg_2n_fsm.cc | 29 +++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> -
> >>>>>>     src/amf/amfd/siass.cc     | 20 ++++++++++----------
> >>>>>>     src/amf/amfnd/di.cc       |  6 ++++--
> >>>>>>     3 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> diff --git a/src/amf/amfd/sg_2n_fsm.cc
> >>>>>> b/src/amf/amfd/sg_2n_fsm.cc index 3a7609e07..b9748015e 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/src/amf/amfd/sg_2n_fsm.cc
> >>>>>> +++ b/src/amf/amfd/sg_2n_fsm.cc
> >>>>>> @@ -580,7 +580,8 @@ static AVD_SU_SI_REL
> >>>>>> *avd_sg_2n_act_susi(AVD_CL_CB *cb, AVD_SG *sg,
> >>>>>>         /* Determining SUSI for su_2 may not be needed, but to
> >>>>>> make sure we have
> >>>>>>          * correct SUSI.*/
> >>>>>>         a_susi_2 = su_assigned_susi_find(su_2, &s_susi_2);
> >>>>>> -    osafassert(a_susi_1 && s_susi_1);
> >>>>>> +    if (a_susi_1 == nullptr) LOG_WA("a_susi_1 is null");
> >>>>>> +    if (s_susi_1 == nullptr) LOG_WA("s_susi_1 is null");
> >>>>>>         /* There is a case where both the SUs become Standby:
> >>>>>> When
> >>>>>> SU1 is locked, it
> >>>>>>            transitions from Act to Quisced, then SU2 goes to Act
> >>>>>> from Std. Now
> >>>> if
> >>>>>>            Act assgnment fails, then SU2 will go into Quisced state.
> >>>>>> Here both
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> @@ -590,11 +591,23 @@ static AVD_SU_SI_REL
> >>>>>> *avd_sg_2n_act_susi(AVD_CL_CB *cb, AVD_SG *sg,
> >>>>>>            standby. */
> >>>>>>         if ((SA_AMF_HA_QUIESCED == avd_su_state_determine(su_1))
> &&
> >>>>>>             (SA_AMF_HA_QUIESCED == avd_su_state_determine(su_2))) {
> >>>>>> -      osafassert(a_susi_1->su == s_susi_2->su);
> >>>>>> -      osafassert(a_susi_2->su == s_susi_1->su);
> >>>>>> +      if (a_susi_1 && s_susi_2 && a_susi_1->su != s_susi_2->su) {
> >>>>>> +        LOG_WA("a_susi_1->su:%s != s_susi_2->su:%s",
> >>>>>> +            a_susi_1->su->name.c_str(), s_susi_2->su->name.c_str());
> >>>>>> +      }
> >>>>>> +      if (a_susi_2 && s_susi_1 && a_susi_2->su != s_susi_1->su) {
> >>>>>> +        LOG_WA("a_susi_2->su:%s != s_susi_1->su:%s",
> >>>>>> +            a_susi_2->su->name.c_str(), s_susi_1->su->name.c_str());
> >>>>>> +      }
> >>>>>>         } else {
> >>>>>> -      osafassert(a_susi_1->su == a_susi_2->su);
> >>>>>> -      osafassert(s_susi_1->su == s_susi_2->su);
> >>>>>> +      if (a_susi_1 && a_susi_2 && a_susi_1->su != a_susi_2->su) {
> >>>>>> +        LOG_WA("a_susi_1->su:%s != a_susi_2->su:%s",
> >>>>>> +            a_susi_1->su->name.c_str(), a_susi_2->su->name.c_str());
> >>>>>> +      }
> >>>>>> +      if (s_susi_1 && s_susi_2 && s_susi_1->su != s_susi_2->su) {
> >>>>>> +        LOG_WA("s_susi_1->su:%s != s_susi_2->su:%s",
> >>>>>> +            s_susi_1->su->name.c_str(), s_susi_2->su->name.c_str());
> >>>>>> +      }
> >>>>>>         }
> >>>>>>         a_susi = a_susi_1;
> >>>>>>         s_susi = s_susi_1;
> >>>>>> @@ -602,7 +615,11 @@ static AVD_SU_SI_REL
> >>>>>> *avd_sg_2n_act_susi(AVD_CL_CB *cb, AVD_SG *sg,
> >>>>>>       }
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>     done:
> >>>>>> -  *stby_susi = s_susi;
> >>>>>> +  if (s_susi && s_susi->state == SA_AMF_HA_STANDBY) {
> >>>>>> +    *stby_susi = s_susi;
> >>>>>> +  } else {
> >>>>>> +    *stby_susi = nullptr;
> >>>>>> +  }
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>       TRACE_LEAVE2("act: '%s', stdby: '%s'",
> >>>>>>                    a_susi ? a_susi->su->name.c_str() : nullptr,
> >>>>>> diff --git a/src/amf/amfd/siass.cc b/src/amf/amfd/siass.cc index
> >>>>>> 6a13836f9..f23f3a947 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/src/amf/amfd/siass.cc
> >>>>>> +++ b/src/amf/amfd/siass.cc
> >>>>>> @@ -218,13 +218,20 @@ void
> >>>>>> avd_susi_read_headless_cached_rta(AVD_CL_CB *cb) {
> >>>>>>             std::string(strstr(osaf_extended_name_borrow(&dn), 
> >>>>>> "safSi"));
> >>>>>>         assert(si_name.empty() == false);
> >>>>>>         AVD_SI *si = si_db->find(si_name);
> >>>>>> -    osafassert(si);
> >>>>>> +    if (si == nullptr) {
> >>>>>> +      LOG_ER("SI:'%s' does not exist in AMF's sidb", si_name.c_str());
> >>>>>> +      continue;
> >>>>>> +    }
> >>>>>>         SaNameT su_name;
> >>>>>>         avsv_sanamet_init_from_association_dn(&dn, &su_name,
> "safSu",
> >>>>>>                                               si->name.c_str());
> >>>>>>         AVD_SU *su = su_db->find(Amf::to_string(&su_name));
> >>>>>> +    if (su == nullptr) {
> >>>>>> +      LOG_ER("SU:'%s' does not exist in AMF's sudb",
> >>>>>> +          Amf::to_string(&su_name).c_str());
> >>>>>> +      continue;
> >>>>>> +    }
> >>>>>>         osaf_extended_name_free(&su_name);
> >>>>>> -    osafassert(su);
> >>>>>>         susi = avd_su_susi_find(cb, su, si->name);
> >>>>>>         rc = immutil_getAttr("osafAmfSISUFsmState", attributes,
> >>>>>> 0, &imm_susi_fsm);
> >>>>>>         osafassert(rc == SA_AIS_OK); @@ -335,15 +342,8 @@ bool
> >>>>>> avd_susi_validate_headless_cached_rta(AVD_SU_SI_REL
> >> *present_susi,
> >>>>>>       bool valid = true;
> >>>>>>       // rule 1: valid ha state
> >>>>>>       if (ha_fr_imm != present_susi->state) {
> >>>>>> -    if (ha_fr_imm == SA_AMF_HA_QUIESCING || ha_fr_imm ==
> >>>>>> SA_AMF_HA_QUIESCED) {
> >>>>>> -      // That's fine
> >>>>>> -      ;
> >>>>>> -    } else {
> >>>>>> -      LOG_ER("SISU:'%s', old(imm) ha state: %d, new(sync) ha state:
> %d",
> >>>>>> +      LOG_WA("SISU:'%s', old(imm) ha state: %d, new(sync) ha
> >>>>>> + state: %d",
> >>>>>>                  dn.c_str(), ha_fr_imm, present_susi->state);
> >>>>>> -      valid = false;
> >>>>>> -      goto done;
> >>>>>> -    }
> >>>>>>       }
> >>>>>>       // rule 2: if ha_fr_imm is QUIESCING, one of relevant entities
> must
> >>>>>>       // have adminState is SHUTTINGDOWN, otherwise re-adjust if
> >>>>>> possible diff --git a/src/amf/amfnd/di.cc b/src/amf/amfnd/di.cc
> >>>>>> index 6f0a76cda..0da907566 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/src/amf/amfnd/di.cc
> >>>>>> +++ b/src/amf/amfnd/di.cc
> >>>>>> @@ -1290,6 +1290,7 @@ void avnd_di_msg_ack_process(AVND_CB
> >> *cb,
> >>>>>> uint32_t mid) {
> >>>>>>     void avnd_diq_rec_check_buffered_msg(AVND_CB *cb) {
> >>>>>>       if ((cb->dnd_list.head != nullptr)) {
> >>>>>>         AVND_DND_MSG_LIST *rec = 0;
> >>>>>> +    AVND_DND_MSG_LIST *tail = cb->dnd_list.tail;
> >>>>>>         bool found = true;
> >>>>>>         while (found) {
> >>>>>>           found = false;
> >>>>>> @@ -1318,7 +1319,7 @@ void
> >>>>>> avnd_diq_rec_check_buffered_msg(AVND_CB *cb) {
> >>>>>>                     
> >>>>>> rec->msg.info.avd->msg_info.n2d_su_si_assign.msg_id);
> >>>>>>               }
> >>>>>>               m_AVND_DIQ_REC_PUSH(cb, rec);
> >>>>>> -          break;
> >>>>>> +          if (tail == cb->dnd_list.tail) break;
> >>>>>>             } else if (rec->msg.info.avd->msg_type ==
> >>>>>>                   AVSV_N2D_OPERATION_STATE_MSG) {
> >>>>>>               if
> >>>>>> (rec->msg.info.avd->msg_info.n2d_opr_state.msg_id
> >>>>>> != 0) { @@ -1337,11 +1338,12 @@ void
> >>>>>> avnd_diq_rec_check_buffered_msg(AVND_CB *cb) {
> >>>>>>                         .raw);
> >>>>>>               }
> >>>>>>               m_AVND_DIQ_REC_PUSH(cb, rec);
> >>>>>> -          break;
> >>>>>> +          if (tail == cb->dnd_list.tail) break;
> >>>>>>             } else {
> >>>>>>               // delete other messages for now
> >>>>>>               avnd_diq_rec_del(cb, rec);
> >>>>>>               rec = cb->dnd_list.head;
> >>>>>> +          tail = cb->dnd_list.tail;
> >>>>>>             }
> >>>>>>           }
> >>>>>>         }
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> 2.11.0
> 

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