Agreed. I will create a ticket and make the changes, and send to the 
devel list for review.

Alex

On 04/04/2016 07:27 AM, praveen malviya wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> It needs a fix, standby should follow the same order as active.
> But in case of removal of standby assignments, it must be in reversed 
> order as indicated in spec.
>
> Thanks,
> Praveen
>
> On 01-Apr-16 5:52 PM, Alex Jones wrote:
>> Praveen/Mathi,
>>
>>      I am happy to write a ticket and fix it, if we agree that STANDBY
>> should follow the same ordering as ACTIVE.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On 04/01/2016 08:05 AM, Mathivanan Naickan Palanivelu wrote:
>>> Hi Alex/Praveen,
>>>
>>> I don't remember being part of a discussion where the STANDBY
>>> assignments should be
>>> given the same treatment as 'QUIESCED/QUIESCING' in this scenario.
>>> I guess the implementation just took that route based on the words "or
>>> another HA state" as-in
>>> P 186, section 3.8.1.3, lines29- 30 - "the active HA state is removed
>>> from components or
>>> another HA state is assigned to components"
>>>
>>> In my opinion, I think both ACTIVE and STANDBY assignments should
>>> follow the same ordering of dependencies .
>>> I also think this brings no additional considerations whether it is PI
>>> or NPI.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mathi.
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Alex Jones [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:24 PM
>>>> To: praveen malviya; [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [users] AMF question on CSI ordering
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Praveen.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I need to be a little clearer here.
>>>>
>>>> We have two SA-aware components in the same SI. We use
>>>> saAmfCSIDependencies to make sure that the ACTIVE assignment for 
>>>> one CSI
>>>> always precedes the other. This works as we expect. But, we notice
>>>> that it is
>>>> not the case when the STANDBY assignment is done. And I don't 
>>>> understand
>>>> why. I understand for QUIESCED/QUIESCING that the order should be
>>>> reversed, but why not have the same order for STANDBY as ACTIVE for 
>>>> SA-
>>>> aware components?
>>>>
>>>> I don't see a mention of NPI anywhere in 3.8.1.3, so I'm not sure
>>>> what you
>>>> mean here.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/30/2016 09:18 AM, praveen malviya wrote:
>>>>> Please see inline.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Praveen
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30-Mar-16 6:18 PM, Alex Jones wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        Does anyone know what is the reasoning behind "*/reverse 
>>>>>> order
>>>>>> is applied when /**/... another HA state is assigned to 
>>>>>> components/*"
>>>>>> in the AMF spec in 3.8.1.3. Apparently OpenSAF interprets this for
>>>>>> STANDBY assignment. In other words, if I use CSIDependencies I can
>>>>>> order the ACTIVE assignment for each CSI, but the STANDBY CSI
>>>>>> assignments are done in reverse. I understand why QUIESCING or
>>>>>> QUIESCED should be done in reverse order, but why STANDBY? I would
>>>>>> think you would want the ordering the same as for ACTIVE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        Can someone explain this?
>>>>> In the section 3.8.1.3, the example used for explanation of CSI deps
>>>>> models NPI components. In the next section (3.8.2 page 188), spec
>>>>> clearly differentiate between the use of saAmfCompinstantiationlevel
>>>>> and CSI deps for resolving dependencies among components.
>>>>> So in case of NPI components, there will be no assignments for
>>>>> standby. So the question of order becomes invalid. For
>>>>> quiesced/quiescing state termination will be done in reverse order 
>>>>> and
>>>>> it goes with spec.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the same time for sa-aware compnents, SI deps is the way that spec
>>>>> proposes for any assignment related dependencies and
>>>>> saAmfCompinstantiationlevel for any execution environment related 
>>>>> deps.
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
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