Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> > The motivations are, again:
> > 
> > * to have one canonical mailing list address
> >   + meaning that mail to other addresses has some handling
> >     to help guide posters to the canonical address (ie. something
> >     better than current forwarding)
> 
> fine with me, we can implement it as suggested.

Cool. I'm not sure exactly how to implement that $handling, it also
depends a bit on what tools and processes are used on the server.


> > * without lists. is more intuitive, shorter, and prettier, to me
> 
> and that is a good reason to force everyone else to switch to 
> a different address?

Maybe others agree with me, even if you do not.


> At least I completely fail why changing the email address that
> everyone else uses properly for years is any good.

I think it would be an improvement. There is also crap code that only
gets fixed after many years. Maybe not in our projects, but for sure
in some others.


> why ask hundreds of users to change their email settings (mail
> filters, contact lists, address books etc.) only because of you
> like one form more than the other.

Again, maybe I'm not the only one who considers the suggestion to be
an improvement.


> and for me the whole argument about the length of the email address
> is rediculous. these days I click on a mailto: link on the web page
> and start typing the email.

Obviously everyone else in the world does not have the same workflow
as you.


> at least it is this way for me, and I do think that about everyone
> works this way these days.

Even if that were so (which it isn't) then would that be a reason
*not* to go forward with a proposed improvement? I think that's
uncharacteristically conservative for an open source project.


> so with this statistic,

The statistic is not so relevant IMO. My reasoning is not that
configuration is wrong because there are frequent mismatches between
config and what users do. I said this; it's only now and then that
there are duplicates. But that's too often.

And in addition to that, I also raise the point that dropping lists.
would be an improvement. Maybe I should have written separate emails.

Prettier address, shorter, easier, no nonsense, maybe you will
actually have to type it into a software at some point in the future
(oh the horror) and can also benefit..


> is there any reason not to simply remove the aliases for the old
> names and send a mail to those 6 people and ask the to update
> their addressbook?

For the third (fourth?) time, the most important thing to me is to
only have one canonical list address, and in addition ideally handle
mis-addressed messages during a transition period.

I also think the lists. name is important to drop, but having a
canonical address is much more important. I brought up both topics at
the same time because when futzing around with email server anyway it
would be nice to do both changes at once.


//Peter
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