On 2011-07-20 09:30, Martin Paljak wrote: > Hello, > <snip> >> One may argue that it will take a few years to do that but that >> should be compared with the EXTREMELY SLOW development going on >> in the smart card community. For example there is no [reasonable] way >> you can provision a card using a standard browser since the card >> industry doesn’t do browsers. Apple do browsers... > > > Traditional smart cars IMHO are not supposed to be self-subscribed.
Well, a more correct description is that they seem to be "supposed" to be provisioned using proprietary (or unusual) solutions. iPhone's already deployed Profile+SCEP shows that this "problem" is unique to smart cards. > But the failed trusted computing (maybe not failed, but "the next big > thing in IT security that has taken years to come") might probably be > re-born as "identity tokens" in mobile devices (identity which is > disconnected from the other greedy beast, the telecom operator). Given > that almost all consumer devices have been rooted to date, I doubt the > "trusted computing" theme will succeed in mobiles either. Maybe it > even shouldn't. I'm moderately worried about the absence of trusted computing, it is rather a journey. Rooting of iPhones is AFAIK mainly the result of Apple's lock-in policy. > If we omit the whining, what could we do? Unfortunately the smart card industry are fully occupied fighting their "comrades" so we can only relax and see the ship slowly sinking. It is even somewhat amusing... I wouldn't even be surprised if one of these giants creates a payment network that directly competes with VISA. VISA doesn't do phones :-) Yes, I'm still (slooooooooooooooooooooooowly) working on the open card and provisioning solution. So far it seems like the only challenger to coming Apple and Google monopolies. Cheers, Anders > > Cheers, > Martin > _______________________________________________ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
