The check ping packets are for detecting spoofing. The malicious man-in-the-middle already has all the info from Charles simply because Charles went to his region: UUID, sessionID, secureSessionID, Viewer EndPoint... everything that we send around to regions. Note that the info wasn't sniffed, it was given, as we always do. Yeah, what I'm talking about does not involve sophisticated equipment... So it can easily launch an agent at WP pretending to be Charles, spoofing the UDP EndPoint. What it *can't* do is to *receive* the UDP PingCheck packets that WP sends to that EndPoint. The best it can do is to send a reply guessing what the seq number might be.

Frisby, Adam wrote:

I think the 3 ping check is technically invalid. Anyone capable of capturing a packet and sniffing a session/securesession ID out of it, is quite capable of injecting our check packets in too.

Adam

*From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Diva Canto
*Sent:* Tuesday, 24 February 2009 9:03 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [Opensim-dev] User Authentication

Mike Mazur wrote:

Hi,
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:54:16 -0800
Diva Canto <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
    * Within a few days: write a simple [optional]

    UserAuthenticationModule along the lines of option a) that does the

    following: upon a NewUserConnection, regions will check with the

    incoming user's User server that the declared user exists and is

    logged into the system.

In a grid a region can be told (via a configuration option) which user
server to check. What about HG regions? How does an HG region know
which user server to ping? Is this information supplied by the
connecting client? If so, what's to prevent a malicious client from
supplying a user server that will always reply favorably?
The HG region sends that information along when the user moves away from the home UGAIM. The user carries along the collection of URLs of all of the servers it uses. It's ok if the given User Server @ foobar.com always says yes -- that's not the problem. The problem we need to detect is the user claiming to be from Intel.com or OSGrid.org, when, in fact, isn't.


    Furthermore, upon AddNewClient (which happens

    shortly after), regions will challenge the incoming client with 3 UDP

    Ping messages having random seq numbers, to which the incoming client

    must respond correctly

How does the client know the correct response? In fiddling with the client after talking to Teravus, I discovered a pair of response-reply packets that can be initiated from the server. They are StartPingCheck / CompletePingCheck. They take a byte as argument. The server sends StartPingCheck(33), the client responds with CompletePingCheck(33). Handy.

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