I'll consider that 'point taken' and agree to agree with the legal edge-case represented by LL, though I would point out that such whholesale exporting of content is already well underway. Thanks for taking the time to consider my views ;)
Cheers James On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Melanie <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > unfortunately, I believe the potential for abuse outstrips the > usefulness here. > > The issue is not necessarily with individual creators, who would > maybe be happy with proper attribution, but rather with Linden Labs. > I believe they would take an interest if wholesale copying of > content from the maingrid were to occur as something OpenSim, by > software design, officially sanctions. > > There is a difference between "not possible", "possible but > unsupported" and "fully supported in core". The latter needs to be > avoided for reasons of liability. > > A Forge module comes to mind here. > > And, BTW, website profiles in SL can be disabled by the user, and > many have done so. You can easily see this from the "Staff boards" > in SL, which work by grabbing web profiles, as well as the user > profile projector. > > Melanie > > > James Stallings II wrote: > > Perhaps So Mel, But........Where is the similar licensing or release from > > obligation under license for the OS grid content? > > > > It seems to me there's a double standard in the offing here, whereby > content > > from the Linden Grid is hands-off for legal reasons, but not so much as a > > tip of the hat in that direction when it comes to content from an OS > grid. > > > > In every case I am aware of (a certain steamboat comes to mind), the > > complaint from the content creator has not been that the content has been > > relocated, but that their credit for it's creation has been 'removed' (we > > know that it wasn't removed, just lost due to a lack of reference to the > > creator from the originating grid). > > > > Now I'm not saying it will always be the case that the creator will be > > comfortable with the content leaving the Linden Grid, but that seems to > be > > the predominant case. > > > > It would seem to me that a robust solution to this issue would at least > > attempt to address content imported from the Linden Grid, as there will > very > > likely be scenarios in the not-too-distant future in which the creator > > allows content to be imported from the Linden Grid, and it would seem to > me > > that preservation of the creators identity across grids would go a long > way > > towards easing many of these 'theft of content' concerns on the part of > > content creators. > > > > Just my 0.02$L > > > > Cheers > > James/Hiro/daTwitch > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Diva Canto <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> The origin of this thread was OARs and IARs (for content porting > between > >> OpenSims), and foreign users (for the HG). I don't think there was ever > any > >> intention of grabbing profiles from Second Life, although, as far as I > know, > >> those profiles are available on the web so it would be technically > feasible > >> to do it, but it would probably have to be special-cased. > >> > >> James Stallings II wrote: > >> > >> There are some strong ideas here for the future, but I think that the > >> original problem has been lost in the mix (or perhaps I missed something > in > >> the thread, not entirely out of the question ;) > >> Unless I am mistaken, the real problem is older content imported from > SL > >> - how to preserve the creator ID of such content? > >> > >> The scenario, I am sure, is not unfamiliar: > >> > >> OS user purchases full rights content on the Linden Grid; OS user, > >> through hook or crook, imports said content, because he has no intention > of > >> ever using it on the Linden Grid; creator of said content discovers that > the > >> content has been relocated and cries foul because his/her creator > >> identification has been 'removed'. > >> > >> While the foregoing discussions itt address the potentiality of this > >> scenario as it would occur when the content originates on an OS grid, > what > >> do we do about preservation of the ID of the creator of content from > that > >> distant but arguably compatible foreign grid we all know and love so > well? > >> > >> Cheers > >> James/Hiro/daTwitch > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Sean Dague <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Melanie wrote: > >>> > I am absolutely sure that I would not went HG to ever, EVER, insert > >>> > user records or profile records into my database. I strongly favor > >>> > the "URL" approach, which is neutral as far as my database goes. > >>> > >>> Ok, so then hash those urls for UUIDs to present to the viewer? 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