I guess, most user could live with moving those clear feature request out from mantis to the new feature voting tool.
..as a suggestion.. Cheers, Ralf -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von [email protected] Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Mai 2009 18:35 An: [email protected] Betreff: Opensim-dev Digest, Vol 21, Issue 72 Send Opensim-dev mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Opensim-dev digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Is the message "Please wait 5 minutes" still needed? (Stefan Andersson) 2. 0.7 Release Discussion (Stefan Andersson) 3. Re: 0.7 Release Discussion (Nebadon Izumi) 4. Re: 0.7 Release Discussion (Stefan Andersson) 5. Re: 0.7 Release Discussion (Nebadon Izumi) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 13:01:39 +0200 From: Stefan Andersson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Is the message "Please wait 5 minutes" still needed? To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How about configurable, with 0 being immediately? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:52:19 +0200 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Is the message "Please wait 5 minutes" still needed? Frisby, Adam wrote: Make it standard. +1 +1, since the potential other session is kicked anyhow already... Adam -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:opensim-dev- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Valadares Sent: Friday, 29 May 2009 2:59 PM To: OpenSim-Dev Subject: [Opensim-dev] Is the message "Please wait 5 minutes" still needed? Hi everyone, I wanted to consult you all about this matter, even though I have already committed some related code. I will gladly change it if we decide to do things differently. Once upon a time, there seemed to be a necessity that you had to wait 5 minutes if you crashed and tried to log back in. Those were the days before my time, tales that the elder tells us by the fireside. After these days, when I started messing around with OpenSim, there was a bug that would kick you after a few minutes if you tried to log back on without waiting. This was also fixed (thanks Crista!), which leads me to my question. Why are we still getting this message? Well, the only purpose I can think of is it warns you that you either crashed last time or that someone is using your account. Either way, something went wrong and the user might want to know that. So the code I committed puts an option in standalone that allows you to skip this message and just let OpenSim kick the old user and connect the new one, kind of like what happens in messengers if you logon from a different location. This is very useful when you have softwares that encapsulate the login process and doesn't want to leave the user looking at the viewer's login page with a failed message. So, should this become standard and just skip and kick, or should we leave it up to configuration? 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Or, say, 1st of aug happens, and we'll tag 0.6.7 then instead. ;) I believe this kind of solidified 0.7 would give us all a breather, help us recoup, and then we can all go back to fiddling with our various dev projects again. What you say? Best regards, Stefan Andersson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/opensim-dev/attachments/20090531/b8d6a481 /attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:24:51 -0700 From: Nebadon Izumi <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Have you even looked at mantis??? there are 728 open tickets, chances are if we clear mantis, we will have OpenSimulator 1.0.. I personally don't see this as feasible, this is to me looks like us trying to control what all the developers are doing, and I have to -1 this idea as it would probably make most devs just stop working. Neb On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Stefan Andersson <[email protected]>wrote: > > I do believe we're all feeling the advent of 0.7 - a milestone in any open > source project. > > Here's a crazy idea for you; how about we agree to freeze feature set and > major architecture as of now, and concentrate on only: > > * Finalizing the backend restructuring > * Clear mantis (hell, let's CLEAR mantis! how's that for ambitious?) > * Write unit tests > > until the cows come home, and tag the cow homecoming rev as 0.7? Or, say, > 1st of aug happens, and we'll tag 0.6.7 then instead. ;) > > I believe this kind of solidified 0.7 would give us all a breather, help us > recoup, and then we can all go back to fiddling with our various dev > projects again. > > What you say? > > Best regards, > Stefan Andersson > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > -- Michael Emory Cerquoni - Nebadon Izumi @ http://osgrid.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/opensim-dev/attachments/20090531/cc1bbd9e /attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 15:29:26 +0200 From: Stefan Andersson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Wise from experience, I would never propose anything as preposterous as to tell any core dev to do anything. But if a substantial part of core devs and the patching community think it's a good idea and can be swayed to rally for it, I think we can see some really extraordinary measures that would make us all look pretty god damn good. And hell, I stated it would be ambitious. Aim for the stars, hit the treetops, you know. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:24:51 -0700 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion Have you even looked at mantis??? there are 728 open tickets, chances are if we clear mantis, we will have OpenSimulator 1.0.. I personally don't see this as feasible, this is to me looks like us trying to control what all the developers are doing, and I have to -1 this idea as it would probably make most devs just stop working. Neb On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Stefan Andersson <[email protected]> wrote: I do believe we're all feeling the advent of 0.7 - a milestone in any open source project. Here's a crazy idea for you; how about we agree to freeze feature set and major architecture as of now, and concentrate on only: * Finalizing the backend restructuring * Clear mantis (hell, let's CLEAR mantis! how's that for ambitious?) * Write unit tests until the cows come home, and tag the cow homecoming rev as 0.7? Or, say, 1st of aug happens, and we'll tag 0.6.7 then instead. ;) I believe this kind of solidified 0.7 would give us all a breather, help us recoup, and then we can all go back to fiddling with our various dev projects again. What you say? Best regards, Stefan Andersson _______________________________________________ Opensim-dev mailing list [email protected] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:34:36 -0700 From: Nebadon Izumi <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I can agree with that, if everyone else agrees i have no problem with it, I would just hate for anyone to think that we are locking things up and they wont have our support. And mostly i was more concerned with trying to clear mantis, that seams a bit unrealistic, as a good portion of fixing the mantis probably rely on us instituting many feature requests. It kind of goes against the whole premise of freezing up feature requests. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Stefan Andersson <[email protected]>wrote: > Wise from experience, I would never propose anything as preposterous as to > tell any core dev to do anything. > > But if a substantial part of core devs and the patching community think > it's a good idea and can be swayed to rally for it, I think we can see some > really extraordinary measures that would make us all look pretty god damn > good. > > And hell, I stated it would be ambitious. Aim for the stars, hit the > treetops, you know. > > Best regards, > Stefan Andersson > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:24:51 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion > > > Have you even looked at mantis??? there are 728 open tickets, chances are > if we clear mantis, we will have OpenSimulator 1.0.. I personally don't see > this as feasible, this is to me looks like us trying to control what all the > developers are doing, and I have to -1 this idea as it would probably make > most devs just stop working. > > Neb > > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Stefan Andersson <[email protected]>wrote: > > > I do believe we're all feeling the advent of 0.7 - a milestone in any open > source project. > > Here's a crazy idea for you; how about we agree to freeze feature set and > major architecture as of now, and concentrate on only: > > * Finalizing the backend restructuring > * Clear mantis (hell, let's CLEAR mantis! how's that for ambitious?) > * Write unit tests > > until the cows come home, and tag the cow homecoming rev as 0.7? 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