Well, shoot, Len. We are all volunteers here, so lets work through it and see 
where we can get. After all, we are not selling any software, rather we are 
developing software as a community, and you are welcome to help.

There are some binary distributions that folks have put together in the past 
and others will put together in the future. 

Maybe the issue is our wiki (again). As with most folks, I want to be able to 
'google' an arbitrary subject and have the answer just pop out at me on the 
first line. Unfortunately, it is impossible to express a complicated subject 
with just "one line" without the arrogant FLA "RTFM".

So, as we move forward, lets find ways to increase the usefullness of our 
wikis, blogs, websites on various grids and let it be easier to deploy OpenSim 
with the new users that are showing up recently.

Charles




________________________________
From: Len Brown <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:42:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Prepackaged OpenSim installs

There are great binary distros out there, but preconfiguration isn't practical 
for a few reasons:

Use the internal SQLLite or external MySQL, as one example.

The binaries are great, but one still must configure the OpenSim.ini file.  
I've not had any issues with this whatsoever up to 0.8.5.1 bot to date I still 
cannot get 0.6.6 to run AT ALL.  Either some kind of resource error is thrown 
that relates to the primary avitar, or some other error is thrown.  The problem 
is probably very simple, but without a basic step by step guide, and a few 
likely possibilities for failure thrown in along the sidebar, then it's just a 
tangle of frustration and swift "I give up" and going back to 0.6.5.1 where 
everything can be compiled, configured and up and running in under 5 minutes 
from source code.


On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Robert A. Knop Jr. <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 04:31:26AM -0500, Len Brown wrote:
>>>      Surely, a single page step by step account of (at least) how to
>>> configure and run OpenSim is, in essence, MANDATORY.  Otherwise all the hard
>>> work and effort on the project is absolutely worthless.  If the average
>>> person cannot get a single stand-alone region running on their home computer
>>> within 5 or 10 minutes then it's all in vain.
>
>>I'm entirely a Linux user myself, so I don't know the answer to this,
>>but -- there are binary distros for windows available, are there not,
>>for OpenSim?  How friendly are they to get started?
>
>>Next question : is there somebody in the OpenSim team who's taken on the
>>mantle of providing binary distros and making it easy to install?
>
>>I'll look into it, but I might be willing to try to take up the job of
>>providing at least some of that for Linux builds.
>
>>(Aside: I'm a n00b to opensim-dev.  To those who haven't met me on IRC,
>>I'm Rob Knop, itenerant astrophysicist & computer engineer.  I was a
>>professor of Physics & Astronomy at Vanderbilt until 2007, and from 2007
>>to 2009 was Prospero Linden, production operations engineer and later
>>server release manager for Linden Lab.  I currently don't have long-term
>>employement, but am working with MICA (www.mica-vw.org) on N-body
>>simulations, and using virtual worlds as both a collaboration platform
>>and a visualization platform.  This has naturally led me to OpenSim as
>>an open source server that lets us do fun things you can't do without
>>source code and your own servers running the code....)
>
>>--
>>--Rob Knop
>>  E-mail:    [email protected]
>>  Home Page: http://www.pobox.com/%7Erknop/
>>  Blog:      http://www.sonic.net/%7Erknop/blog/
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