Getting a bit off topic, but here is another one: http://forge.opensimulator.org/gf/project/hwios
cheers, Jeroen Op woensdag 06 januari 2010 16:41:23 schreef Impalah Shenzhou: > I am working on it and it's about to be launched (due to the framework I > use, Code Igniter, possibly with a MIT or Apache license, but open source). > > A soon as I clean the code will be available for public download. It was > stable on October but then... Modern Warfare 2 was launched and I love > AK-47 > > :-) > > I called it unga :-) http://ai-designstudio.net/en/blog/1008 > > I am planning to make a Python unga using Tornado/Twister frameworks, but I > haven't time enough... > > Greetings > > > > > 2010/1/6 Tom Willans <[email protected]> > > > Thanks for your help here, I will check out these connectors, and assess > > the work involved. > > > > From my perspective the web interface and authentication are critical; > > the two most significant aspects that impact upon my plans. I guess there > > is a problem in having the development resources to update the web > > interface. The other major issue mentioned by every organisation I have > > spoken to is security - but I know you intend to address this. > > > > I can appreciate Mic's concern though as changes to the architecture and > > interfaces are especially expensive in development time - not a demand > > but it is a significant issue. > > Are some aspects of the interface more settled than others? I appreciate > > that this is a judgement call. > > > > Mic do you know who else is doing work on PHP/Web Services? > > > > Thanks once again. > > Tom > > > > On 5 Jan 2010, at 15:20, [email protected] wrote: > > > > In my experience, no project is, or should be, 'stable' until it reaches > > 1.0. Before 1.0 people programming against the core code do it at their > > own peril, and should not complain. It's completely unrealistic to > > demand interface stability during early stages, and it's actually quite > > harmful -- stabilizing on bad design is the worst that can happen to a > > project. Even after 1.0, interfaces change. Just to point one among many > > examples that I know first hand: Apache Lucene, changed dramatically > > from 1.x to 2.0. > > > > So I'm not sure what to tell you. Will the interfaces change? Most > > likely. Will the pace of changes slow down over time? Definitely. When > > is a good time for people to extend OpenSim 'safely'? Not before 1.0. > > > > > > Mic Bowman wrote: > > > > Do you expect those formalized interfaces to remain stable long enough > > > > to warrant the effort to create alternative implementations? Others have > > > > provided alternative implementations in the past that quickly became > > > > obsolete. > > > > > > --mic > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:17 PM, <[email protected] > > > > <mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > > > > Putting PHP in front of the DBs is one of the most natural things to > > do > > > > from here on -- not just the things that Wiredux does, but for a lot > > > > more! In fact, the entire collection of OpenSim.Services that are > > > > provided as reference implementations can be replaced with > > > > implementations in Apache+PHP. > > > > > > Calls from the simulators to the services are now all neatly packaged > > in > > > > OpenSim.Services.Connectors (these are the "out" connectors). Just > > > > browse through those connectors and check out the wire protocols, then > > > > do the receiving end in PHP. Many of them are using standard web > > forms, > > > > others use XMLRPC, others use custom-made HTTP-based dialects. > > > > > > Calls from outside to the simulators are packaged in > > > > OpenSim.Server.Handlers. Again, check them out and, if not using .NET, > > > > write your own client for them. If using .NET/mono you can import the > > > > DLL OpenSim.Connectors.dll, and reuse the existing connectors as-is. > > > > > > But that's not all. Since now the interactions between the simulators > > > > and the resource services are all formalized in interfaces > > > > (OpenSim.Services.Interfaces), and the handlers and connectors in the > > > > simulator are loaded dynamically, you can replace the connectors and > > > > handlers themselves. In other words, if you want OpenSim to talk web > > > > services, roll your own Web Services handlers and connectors under > > those > > > > interfaces, and you're done -- you'll have to use .NET for this part, > > > > though. > > > > > > Tom Willans wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > First thanks for all your work. > > > > > > I assume from this that the webredux will no longer work without > > > > modification and will need updating. ( Thanks again here). > > > > Is there any information about the new authentication approach > > > > anywhere, > > > > if not in detail then an overview. Is LDAP on the horizon? > > > > > > I am mostly interested in linking php based frontends to opensim and > > > > hence accessing the database directly. Particularly relevant is > > > > moving > > > > away from using UUIDs. > > > > Please forgive me if I am missing something but I assume there are no > > > > web-services that can be called and calling C# from php is not a very > > > > good solution. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Tom > > > > On 5 Jan 2010, at 10:37, Ai Austin wrote: > > > > > > At 18:32 04/01/2010, [email protected] > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]<[email protected] > >rlios.de> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]<[email protected] > >rlios.de> > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]<[email protected] > >rlios.de>>> wrote: > > > > To be honest, I don't think Sqlite should be a database type > > > > that we > > > > (OpenSim) should keep alive in the project, > > > > > > > > It is useful to have a double click and go out of the box solution > > > > which people can try out and test with. > > > > > > One other use of SQLite that I am aware of and fine very useful is > > > > for the really simple and handy single region hosted on your own > > > > system that is connected to the New World Grid for any avatar using > > > > the "New World Studio" packaged version of Opensim. 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