I am pretty sure we have no claim to opensim because of this project https://simtk.org/home/opensim
this project existed long before OpenSimulator.org did. also opensim.net does not seem to be responding for me. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Tedd Hansen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi > > I'm not sure that it is legal to use "OpenSim" as this is a short for > "OpenSimulator" and hence could pretty obviously cause confusion. Most > countries (I hope at least) have laws that prohibits this kind of behavior. > > Anyway, would it be an idea to add "OpenSim" to the license agreement? I > think it should be a fair deal for both developers and users that people > respect OpenSim as well as OpenSimulator names in product marketing. As > long > as the limitations for "OpenSim" only applies to the contributions in this > source code then it shouldn't be a problem? And making it more restrictive > is ok, making it less restrictive requires a yes from all contributors. > > I'm fairly sure that an "opensim.net grid" will cause confusion on > multiple > levels around the world. > > Br, > Tedd > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Justin > Clark-Casey > Sent: 3. mai 2010 21:41 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] www.opensim.net > > John Sheridan wrote: > > Going by: > > > > *121*days until > > *OpenSim.net Grid Launch Party > > * > > > > at the upper left of the page I'd guess this the homepage (or future > > homepage) of someone's new grid. I think someone may need to read the > > OpenSim license - maybe the part where it states: > > > > " * * Neither the name of the OpenSimulator Project nor the > > * names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote > > products > > * derived from this software without specific prior written > > permission." > > Just for clarity, it just so happens that we don't have any claim to the > name OpenSim. It was already used by skeletal simulation project, which is > why we tend to use the name OpenSimulator when formally talking about the > project. > > The website in question appears only to use the word OpenSim. However, it > also takes content from our wiki, which is licensed under the Creative > Common Attribute-Share Alike 2.5 license > > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ > > This license requires attribution and I couldn't see any on opensim.net. > I > think that this would be the thing to point out to them (or Google), as > well > as where other people's images have been used without permission. > > > > > > > - Orion Pseudo > > > > ** > > > > On 05/03/2010 10:59 AM, Fish Kungfu wrote: > >> > >> All the entries in the "News" and "Journals" section are posted by > >> someone named, Ismail Malik. > >> > >>> On May 3, 2010 9:49 AM, "Tedd Hansen" <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Anyone know what www.opensim.net <http://www.opensim.net> is all > about? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The short story; It looks to me like someone (anonymous owner of > >>> opensim.net <http://opensim.net>) has hijacked a name (opensim) he or > >>> she may or may not have legal rights to with the (criminal) intent of > >>> abusing a (free) product name for his or her own benefit. > >>> > >>> (Yeah, darn those feminists, can't "he" just cover both sexes?) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I really hope this doesn't mean that core developers have to spend > >>> time on legal issues because some 14 year old wants to run his/her > >>> own site. This is valuable time for professional developers that can > >>> be spent on making OpenSim better instead of bitching to lawyers. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> [09:57:25] <Tedd1> > >>> http://www.opensim.net/videos/opensim-tutorial-6-basic-avatar > >>> > >>> [09:57:28] <Tedd1> whats this? :) > >>> > >>> [09:58:05] <Tedd1> or rather this; http://www.opensim.net/ > >>> > >>> [10:00:26] <sachaMagne_> no idea > >>> > >>> [10:00:52] <Tedd1> it seems to be ripping data directly from other > sites > >>> > >>> [10:00:59] <phrearch> hey > >>> > >>> [10:01:00] <Tedd1> and pretending to "be" opensim > >>> > >>> [10:01:25] <Tedd1> view source -> Public Grid List Sorted <a > >>> href="http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Grid_List/Sorted/Alphabetically"; > >>> > >>> [10:02:25] <sachaMagne_> the opensimulator list is wrong anywat > >>> > >>> [10:02:46] <sachaMagne_> if you select different sorts, you will find > >>> different result for the same grid > >>> > >>> [10:03:15] <Tedd1> page contains RSS feeds, steals lists from > >>> opensimulator.org <http://opensimulator.org>, copy pastes info and > >>> mixes it with lies and half baked truth without ever mentioning that > >>> it is *NOT* opensim > >>> > >>> [10:03:28] <Tedd1> *RSS feeds from other pages (of course) > >>> > >>> [10:03:36] <Tedd1> so no actual contribution, a lot of stealing :) > >>> > >>> [10:04:09] <sachaMagne_> not a breaking news for RSS aggregator ... :/ > >>> > >>> [10:07:22] <Tedd1> someone should probably contact the domain owner > >>> > >>> [10:07:41] <Tedd1> would be really pittyful if core members had to > >>> spend time on legal issues to get some 14 year old to play nice > >>> > >>> [10:07:46] <sachaMagne_> i made a whois and the real owner is hidden > >>> > >>> [10:08:07] <Tedd1> time that could be spent on features, bugfixes, etc > >>> > >>> [10:08:51] <sachaMagne_> no legal information on the site itself > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Br, > >>> > >>> Tedd > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Opensim-dev mailing list > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Opensim-dev mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensim-dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > > -- > Justin Clark-Casey (justincc) > http://justincc.org > http://twitter.com/justincc > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > -- Michael Emory Cerquoni - Nebadon Izumi @ http://osgrid.org
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