I totally don’t get the fixation on self hosting. There is an incredibly rich set of offerings available across github, gitlab, Atlassian, etc and all of them offer essentially free hosting for opensource projects. Most provide integration with unit/smoke test builds on commits and the ability to do pull/merge requests. Most provide real issue tracking and the ability to comment patches at a line level. Any one of them would take the current workflow into the current decade from the VERY error prone (have you ever tried counting the number of commits that "ooops. Fixing..." or reverts of previous commits? I have) current patch based process. And I wont even get into the whole how does one actually become an active contributor to the project, how you get some new DNA and people doing creative work happening. I suspect there is more interest in controlling direction (which I could actually even support if there was a healthy roadmap published for features) than really fostering innovation in the project. Thank god for the one or 2 developers who actually work on bugs and are trying to stabilize what we've got. But wouldn't it be nice if you could actually accelerate that because you were using a modern CICD process?
Mike -----Original Message----- From: opensim-dev-boun...@opensimulator.org <opensim-dev-boun...@opensimulator.org> On Behalf Of Fly Man Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 10:22 AM To: opensim-dev@opensimulator.org Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] New hosting When there's a new server that can host Gitlab-CE and also do away with Mantis by making sure we have a more streamlined workflow I would be very happy. However, I know that OpenSim is still a project that doesn't receive funding to keep a server up and running where developers have streamlined issue reports and also are open for pull requests that are actually easier to integrate with a press of the button. So my Christmas Wish for OpenSim would be to find such funding and build on a future where it's not harder to report an issue and can even point to the exact spot in the code where things go boom. Merry Christmas Op ma 17 dec. 2018 om 14:56 schreef Blake <techplex.engin...@gmail.com>: > Has Gitlab-CE self hosted been considered? It seems like it might be > the best of both worlds, cleaner user interface with merge-requests > and can be self-hosted. https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/ > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 6:18 PM Mike Dickson > <mike.dick...@rivendellnh.com > > > wrote: > > > It isn’t the cloud hosting that’s the issue. It's the archaic bug > > tracking, lack of merge or pull requests with all the development > > being done on master, etc. If you were at parity tool wise with > > what a cloud hoster provides (for free to an opensource project) > > then I guess I'd see your point. Maybe this has more to do with control? > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: opensim-dev-boun...@opensimulator.org < > > opensim-dev-boun...@opensimulator.org> On Behalf Of Melanie > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 5:56 PM > > To: opensim-dev <opensim-dev@opensimulator.org> > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] New hosting > > > > It is not "more modern" to introduce cloud dependence where none > > existed before. The cloud is just someone else's server. A vote was > > taken and resulted in a significant majority against moving to the > > cloud. Since the vote, the fundamental conditions haven't changed. > > We will stay > self-hosted. > > - Melanie ---- On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:48:56 +0000 Mike Dickson < > > mike.dick...@rivendellnh.com> wrote ---- Might be a good opportunity > > to move the repo, wiki and bug tracking to Github and modernize the > > development practices at the same time.... Mike -----Original > Message----- > > From: opensim-dev-boun...@opensimulator.org < > > opensim-dev-boun...@opensimulator.org> On Behalf Of Diva Canto Sent: > > Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:45 PM To: > > opensim-dev@opensimulator.org; opensim-us...@opensimulator.org > > Subject: [Opensim-dev] New hosting A heads up that we are moving the > > opensimulator.org server to a new > hosting > > server, and things may be a bit wonky for a few days -- mantis, > > wiki, > etc. > > Diva _______________________________________________ Opensim-dev > > mailing list Opensim-dev@opensimulator.org > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > _______________________________________________ Opensim-dev mailing > > list Opensim-dev@opensimulator.org > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensim-dev mailing list > > Opensim-dev@opensimulator.org > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensim-dev mailing list > > Opensim-dev@opensimulator.org > > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-dev mailing list > Opensim-dev@opensimulator.org > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > _______________________________________________ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev _______________________________________________ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
