"... pull up the map and search for sims in the search box there, for example mydomain.com:9020" - Excellent piece of advice! It IS there - however, it is not at 5773, 401. It's somewhere so far to the East I can't begin to estimate its position. I CAN TP to it though. Thanks for all your help so far - Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 09 November 2009 15:31 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid Sorry, too early in the morning -- you're not making them neighbors, good. It should work. There are some issues with the map images of hyperlinked regions, they stopped working some time ago, but you should see a white tile. Another way of linking regions on-the-fly is to pull up the map and search for sims in the search box there, for example mydomain.com:9020 [email protected] wrote: > You cannot make neighbors out of hyperlinked regions -- because popular > HG regions could end up with hundreds of neighbors and corresponding > child agents... > > If you want your sims as neighbours, make them share the same DB. > > Kevin Buckley wrote: >> So I now have my regions closer together: <5773-5774, 398-399> on ports >> 9010-9013, and <6281-6282, 390-391> on ports 9020-9023 and, if I log-in to >> one of them, I can 'link-region' to the other: >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> Region (root) # link-region 5773 401 myurl.com:9020 >> 09:27:35 - >> MapName: myurl.com:9020 >> >> 09:27:35 - [HGrid]: Link to myurl.com:9020, in 1477888-102656 >> 09:27:35 - [HGrid]: Linking remote region myurl.com:9020 >> 09:27:35 - [HGrid]: Linking to http://91.237.142.232:9020/ >> 09:27:35 - >> HERE, uuid: a8686b5e-a016-468e-8af4-dffd5b204929 >> >> 09:27:35 - >> HERE, realHandle: 6906032534160896 >> >> 09:27:35 - [HGrid]: Successfully linked to region_uuid >> a8686b5e-a016-468e-8af4-dffd5b204929 >> 09:27:35 - [HGrid]: link region succeeded >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >> However, when I log-in (to the first grid on port 9010) I can't see the >> hyperlinked region at <5773, 401>. That square just shows as 'offline' on >> the big map. >> >> I can't see anything different if I log-in to the other grid on port 9020 >> either. >> >> Am I missing something conceptually here (lol)? Or have I missed out a step >> along the way? >> >> Thanks, Kevin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kevin Buckley [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 09 November 2009 02:31 >> To: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]' >> Subject: RE: [Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid >> >> Thanks - I worked that out and now have 2 instances running on my server on >> ports 901x and 902x and using 2 separate MySQL schemas. >> >> I have created some (different) users in each instance and I can log into >> each instance separately, no problem. >> >> However, when I try to 'link-regions' I get a 'region is too far' error. >> >> The regions (just what was in the diva release) are at 5773,398 and >> 6282,7391. >> >> I seem to remember reading a while back that linked regions needed to be >> within a certain distance from each other (this was/is a bug) - is this the >> problem I am seeing? >> >> Cheers, Kevin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: 09 November 2009 01:26 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid >> >> >> [Warning: this is advanced material for the diva distro.] >> >> If you're running several instances on the same machine you need to give >> each one different ports. That includes the HTTP port (set in >> MyWorld.ini) and the regions' UDP ports (set in RegionConfig.ini). >> >> You then have the option of sharing one DB schema among all instances or >> having a separate DB schema for each instance -- again, that is set in >> MyWorld.ini of each instance. >> >> If you separate the DBs, you will have straightfoward hypergrided sims >> -- for going back & forth between them you have to hyperlink them, etc. >> just as you hyperlink with any other HG region out there. >> >> If you share one DB you end up with a hybrid architecture that may be >> very convenient -- a serverless grid. In a serverless grid, all >> instances share the same DB directly. So, for example, all instances >> will be on the same map, etc. >> Here's a post I wrote about it a month ago: >> http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/?p=22 >> >> >> Kevin Buckley wrote: >>> So - if I want to test this by running separate, hyperlinked, standalone >>> grids on a single server: >>> >>> >>> O I guess I need to give each instance its own Port base: 900x, 901x, >>> 902x etc.? >>> >>> O I guess each instance needs a separate MySQL schema: opensim1, >>> opensim2, opensim3 etc.? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, Kevin >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> [email protected] >>> Sent: 08 November 2009 23:28 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Configure.exe simply produces the configuration files: >>> >>> config-include/MyWorld.ini >>> >>> Regions/RegionConfig.ini >>> >>> You can edit those file afterwards and change whatever you want there. >>> >>> From what you say below, you seem to have enough experience with >>> >>> OpenSim to fiddle with those files manually. (In general I don't >>> >>> recommend it, but if you know what you're doing that's fine) >>> >>> >>> >>> Kevin Buckley wrote: >>> >>> > Karen >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I had a quick look at the diva hypergrid distribution. I'm interested >>> >>> > because ultimately I think hypergrid is the way to go and also, right >>> now, >>> >>> > I'm fed up with the grey avatar/white eyes syndrome and maybe doing >>> >>> > something different might fix it (hahaha). >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I have a question though: what does 'configure.exe' actually do? >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I'm already running a standalone with multi-regions, using MySQL, which >> a >>> > few of us are using and doing some building and asset generation. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I can't use Port-9000 because it's used for something else on my >>> server. So >>> >>> > I use Ports 91xx for a 'Production Grid' and, if I want to test >>> something, I >>> >>> > snapshot the /bin directory and the MySQL schema and run an identical >>> >>> > version on Ports 92xx. If that works, then I migrate the changes to >> the >>> > Production Grid. And I do an automated back-up of EVERYTHING! Every >> day, >>> > lol. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I don't want to try playing with the diva release and find >>> 'configure.com' >>> >>> > trashes my existing setup or MySQL database. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Thanks, Kevin >>> >>> > >>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> >>> > From: [email protected] >>> >>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen >> Palen >>> > Sent: 27 October 2009 14:12 >>> >>> > To: [email protected] >>> >>> > Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Probably the best way to answer your questions is to install the diva >>> >>> > distibution and try out the hypergrid option! >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>From the wiki: >>> >>> > Diva Distribution >>> >>> > >>> >>> > * Preconfigured hypergrided standalone. Easy to setup and to keep >>> up to >>> >>> > date. Windows and Linux/Unix. Download the file diva-rNNNN.zip, unzip >> it, >>> > read README.txt and take it from there. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > http://github.com/diva/diva-distribution/downloads >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I found it very easy to install with complete and explicit >>> instructions in >>> >>> > README files. The READMEs direct you to the wiki and other places where >>> >>> > fairly complete instructions for using the hypergird can be found. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > WARNING: Opensim is "alpha" software, Hypergid is "pre-alpha" and all >>> kinds >>> >>> > of thing work or don't work for no apparent reason. In particular >>> hypergrid >>> >>> > availability depends on who has their grid turn on when you try to >>> connect - >>> >>> > this varies hourly! >>> >>> > >>> >>> > For all of that hypergrid is a lot of fun to experiment with, and the >>> diva >>> >>> > distribution is stable enough to do development and content creation >>> >>> > provided you keep good backups! >>> >>> > >>> >>> > I do a backupPC backup every night PLUS a complete dump of my MySQL >>> database >>> >>> > every night! I was bitten once with database corruption and do NOT >>> intend to >>> >>> > lose my work again! >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Good Luck and have fun! >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Karen >>> >>> > >>> >>> > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Ken Grunke <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>> >> From: Ken Grunke <[email protected]> >>> >>> >> Subject: [Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid >>> >>> >> To: [email protected] >>> >>> >> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:15 AM >>> >>> >> Is the link-region command from the >>> >>> >> console in a standalone necessary to >>> >>> >> hypergrid from the SA to, say, a region in OSGrid for >>> >>> >> example? >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> And is the link-region command needed the other way? 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