one more point I forgot to mention.. You NEVER delete the mono-common foldes. those libraries are a must.
John On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, John Mieske <[email protected]> wrote: > yes the numbers represent their current release from the mono-project > website itself. when its plain mono-common that is the libraries you will > need for it to work with that specific Linux. Example Debian has its own way > of how it interacts with Mono while Ubuntu has its own distribution of it. > But when you goto get the newest mono from the mono-project website it still > needs basics libraries. AND once you upgrade all the binaries and libraries > that mono needs, only then do you remove previous ( numbered ) versions of > mono. because they are no longer referenced from that point on AFTER you > reboot. If you do not reboot the info is not 100% updated and you WILL get > errors / crashes. > > So far I have setup 6 Linux Grids.. All with success. But I could not have > done it smoothly without you guys explaining why the OpenSim / mono problems > didn't work. I know it now. Thank you guys. > > John > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:02 PM, John Hopkin <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> And I thought it was advisable to put the extras in /var. Then again, >> Apache uses /var/www, for example, for the default location of the web >> page itself; as you say, the rest is in /etc. >> >> Sorry, when you say "accept mono without the numbers", does that mean >> to leave alone mono folders that aren't specifically Mono 2.2 by name? >> >> And how does nant figure in this? I have it installed, and have used >> it sometimes for building OpenSim, although I normally install the >> OSGrid binaries. >> >> John Mieske wrote: >> >> > Ok one problem I see.. now I have seen some in the past say it doesn't >> > matter.. but I have seen it does.. when you install tools and itils for >> > Linux put them in the ETC folder. this is where all the "extras" go such >> as >> > SQL and mono. even apache webserver will go in there. When it comes to >> > programs you run when you want, they go in the root folder. This keeps >> > everything nice and tidy. Also, when you goto compile mono, it will look >> for >> > certain libraries. IF those libraries are not in the environment, then >> it >> > will find the closest thing, Looks like its finding your mono 2.2. So >> put >> > 2.4.2.3 in the etc folder where the others are. There is a reason WHY >> you >> > want to reboot and that is so the configs will update. If the >> environment is >> > set to old style it will come old style.. ( rough point i'm making here >> ) >> > .. Keep in mind, its like your PATH setting in DOS. If two items are in >> a >> > row it will find the first one first. although a newer one is later down >> the >> > line. Mono reacts the same way as in all linux environments. Windows >> does >> > this too. >> > >> > So bottom line, if all else fails.. delete the mono 2.2 folder as well >> as >> > other linux folders.. (( accept mono without the numbers )) and try >> > downloading compiling NANT and install and you should be good to go once >> you >> > reboot. >> > >> > John >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:10 PM, John Hopkin < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > > This is where any explanation raises a whole load more questions: >> > > >> > > jfhop...@iras:~$ mono -V >> > > Mono JIT compiler version 2.2 (tarball Wed Apr 22 18:50:00 BST 2009) >> > > Copyright (C) 2002-2008 Novell, Inc and Contributors. >> > > www.mono-project.com >> > > TLS: __thread >> > > GC: Included Boehm (with typed GC) >> > > SIGSEGV: altstack >> > > Notifications: epoll >> > > Architecture: x86 >> > > Disabled: none >> > > jfhop...@iras:~$ type mono >> > > mono is hashed (/usr/local/bin/mono) >> > > jfhop...@iras:~$ >> > > >> > > So, mono's in /usr/local/bin and it's 2.2. Yet Synaptic says that >> > > 2.4.2.3 is installed - I've uninstalled at and reinstalled previously. >> > > My Linux-foo isn't currently up to installing into anything other than >> > > what the package demands and what Synaptic does. >> > > >> > > However, 2.6 is in a separate install (by following step-by-step >> > > instructions on how to do exactly that): >> > > >> > > jfhop...@iras:~$ type mono-2.6 >> > > mono-2.6 is hashed (/usr/local/bin/mono-2.6) >> > > jfhop...@iras:~$ >> > > >> > > The "mono-2.6" script sets up an environment centred on >> > > /opt/mono-2.6/bin and exec's "mono" from there: >> > > >> > > Mono JIT compiler version 2.6.1 (/branches/mono-2-6/mono r150657 Mon >> > > Feb 1 19:00:04 GMT 2010) >> > > Copyright (C) 2002-2008 Novell, Inc and Contributors. >> > > www.mono-project.com >> > > TLS: __thread >> > > GC: Included Boehm (with typed GC and Parallel >> > > Mark) >> > > SIGSEGV: altstack >> > > Notifications: epoll >> > > Architecture: x86 >> > > Disabled: none >> > > jfhop...@iras:/opt/mono-2.6/bin$ >> > > >> > > By this time, my head's spinning. ;-) >> > > >> > > Thanks very much, everyone, for all your help. There's no way I'd be >> > > able to sort this out on my own. >> > > >> > > John Mieske wrote: >> > > >> > > > Ahh quick NOTE : when I say install to new folder I mean if there >> is one >> > > > say mono-2.2 and you have mono-2.4.2.3 ready to install, then you >> install >> > > it >> > > > to the mono-2.4.2.3 folder. I thought I would clarify this. After >> you do >> > > a >> > > > successful mono -V ( with capital V ) then you will see the new mono >> > > > version. I have done this several times with no problems. >> > > > >> > > > John >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:50 PM, John Mieske <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > ok when you installed mono you have to leave the folders in tact >> and >> > > > > install to new folder .. you then compile it as normal and then >> you >> > > install >> > > > > it as normal. When you reboot, then do a mono -V and it should >> show new >> > > > > version. Only after you do that then you can literally goto the >> older >> > > folder >> > > > > of mono 2.2 or whatever else you have mono ( with number ) and >> delete >> > > it. >> > > > > if its just a default folder with mono that came with linux, do >> not >> > > remove >> > > > > that. >> > > > > >> > > > > John >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, John Hopkin < >> > > [email protected]>wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> It may come to this on one of the machines anyway. I can do a >> backup >> > > > >> by using Mono 2.4 on one of the machines, but the other one seems >> to >> > > > >> have 2.2 permanently installed somehow (I followed some >> instructions >> > > > >> to install that ages ago), and 2.6 avoided that mess by >> installing in >> > > > >> another path. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Thanks for the suggestion. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Karen Palen wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > I have been running the Diva distro with Ubuntu Koala (9.10) >> with no >> > > > >> problems, I do a weekly save to OAR and IAR also with no apparent >> > > errors. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Note that Koala has had an unusual number of "teething" >> problems and >> > > a >> > > > >> similar number of updates. The kernel is presently 2.6.31-19 (the >> > > original >> > > > >> Koala was released with 2.6.31-11!) >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > I would be tempted to do a complete re-install just to be sure >> > > > >> everything was up to date. I have put the root (/*) and /home/* >> trees >> > > in >> > > > >> separate partitions to aid in doing this. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > I actually set this up so I could try multiple distros like >> > > OpenSuSE, >> > > > >> but it is also convenient for problems of this kind. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > It really boils down to eliminating things one at a time until >> the >> > > > >> problem goes away! >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Karen >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Jane Foxclaw <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > From: Jane Foxclaw <[email protected]> >> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Error from "save oar" >> > > > >> > > To: [email protected] >> > > > >> > > Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 6:49 AM >> > > > >> > > Ok i hate to be a sour puss here.. but >> > > > >> > > anytime I run OpenSim with any version of Mono on Ubuntu / >> > > > >> > > Kubuntu I get nothing but errors. However I run OpenSim with >> > > > >> > > Mono 2.4.2.3 on Debian 5 and its stable with no errors. >> > > > >> > > Just a thought. >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > John >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:08 PM, >> > > > >> > > John Hopkin <[email protected]> >> > > > >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > Justin Clark-Casey wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > John Hopkin wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dave Coyle wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:59 AM, John Hopkin >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> <[email protected]> >> > > > >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> I'm getting errors (see below) >> > > > >> > > whenever I try "save oar". This occurs >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> from any of the 11 regions, whether or >> > > > >> > > not only one is up at a time, >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> and regardless of how many assets are in >> > > > >> > > that region (minimum is 1). >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> You have the zlib1g package installed? >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> # aptitude install zlib1g >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Yes, zlib1g is installed. >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Also, I've installed OpenSim on another >> > > > >> > > Ubuntu machine, of >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > nearly-identical specification, and that too >> > > > >> > > gives the error. >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Odd error - never seen it before and Google shows few >> > > > >> > > clues. What happens if you run under the Mono >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > 2.4.2.3 that is packaged with Koala Ubuntu? >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > I'm getting the same error under 2.4, >> > > > >> > > unfortunately. >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > -- >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > John Hopkin >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > Opensim-users mailing list >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > [email protected] >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > >> > > Opensim-users mailing list >> > > > >> > > [email protected] >> > > > >> > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> -- >> > > > >> John Hopkin >> > > > >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > >> Opensim-users mailing list >> > > > >> [email protected] >> > > > >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > John Mieske / Sonya Pencuca >> > > > > http://johnmieske.org >> > > > > Space Grid Station >> > > > > "Religion - The art of killing people to prove who's imaginary >> friend >> > > is >> > > > > better." >> > > > > >> > > -- >> > > John Hopkin >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Opensim-users mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> > > >> -- >> John Hopkin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> > > > > -- > John Mieske / Sonya Pencuca > http://johnmieske.org > Space Grid Station > "Religion - The art of killing people to prove who's imaginary friend is > better." > -- John Mieske / Sonya Pencuca http://johnmieske.org Space Grid Station "Religion - The art of killing people to prove who's imaginary friend is better."
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