On 03/02/2010 09:52 PM, John Mieske wrote:
Ok so let me get this straight.. since I am NOT the coder here of my personal Sim as you put it, then I am to expect it to Fail or screw up because the coders who you say "Own" the code ( which by that logic means they own my sim ) can deliberately crash the sim all because of a Stupid holiday prank ? They deliberately put code in there to screw up EVERYONE who has a sim that is a DEV version ?
Not quite, I think you are still a little bent. The code is open and not really own-able in that sense. The master branch is the bleeding edge. That is were the big changes happen which can lead to grid crashes. That is how progress is made and one reason you shouldn't use the master in a so called production environment.
None of the April fools days fun has crashed a grid intentionally or otherwise. If you can't handle a crash from a bug then don't run master. If you don't have a sense of humor definitely don't run master around April 1st either.
So all those poor people who have that, which I know a lot, will get a bad surprise ( and not all of them are even IN this group ) .. and some who have been trying so hard to keep it running, are going to think that something major is wrong on that day not thinking it was all a prank and either A.) give up, or B.) loose all their faith in opensim because of this crap ?
I'm not sure a case could be more overstated. I think most of the creative folks involved in Opensim do not respond this way.
I'm sorry, but does this seem right to anyone here ? Or is this something that all of you are in agreement with here ?
I don't agree with the "juvenile" characterization any more then I would agree with calling Opensim a "game". I fully support and encourage this once a year event. I look forward to it. My first experience with it was 3 years ago when Michael Wright placed an avatar that moved and shouted in the sim. It was funny and the bot was also an example of how that could be done, well back then.
John.
John On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:44 PM, James Stallings II <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The april 1 pranks typically only affect non-release versions of opensim and have never, to my knowlege, crashed anyone's grid. More typically, everyone's avatar will be rendered as a stick figure or plywood box. Again, these pranks typically only impact head. Note that: 1. These pranks are a more than just a bit juvenile, but 2. the code belongs to the devs who write it, not to the users who run it and 3. Don't run dev code on prduction servers if you dont like surprises. Oh and 4. don't expect a lot of sympathy about your 'getting pissed', as you have been more than adequately warned. Cheers, James On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:32 AM, John Ward <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: What version do you run? John Mieske wrote: If my personal 4 Region Grid crashes on april fools because of some stupid holiday i'm going to be pissed ! On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Sean Hennessee <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: Beware, we have one month before April Fool's day. Gremlins have been known to appear in OpenSim on April Fool's day. If you have critical demo's on April 1st, don't use OpenSim! :-D You have been warned! ~Sean -- *Tongue planted firmly in cheek* _______________________________________________ Opensim-users mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users -- John Mieske / Winword Exonar http://johnmieske.org Space Grid Station ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Opensim-users mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users _______________________________________________ Opensim-users mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users -- =================================== http://osgrid.org http://twitter.com/jstallings2 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/770/a49 _______________________________________________ Opensim-users mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users -- John Mieske / Winword Exonar http://johnmieske.org Space Grid Station _______________________________________________ Opensim-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
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