Where did I say "never reply to this group again"? Yesterday you left because of the danger of what the devs could put in Opensim. Today you add it's because of something I said that I never did say.

I'll inject the truth from our private conversation. You said "No replies will be coming from me again on this topic." I did respond with "I'd prefer you not respond, especially to the lists. I don't find your dispersions or paranoia useful."

I wish you were honest about your intenstions and didn't reply. If you are leaving the Opensim community then I do wish you would stop posting too. At the very least you need to stop lying and stop the mis-characterizations.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

John.

On 03/04/2010 11:00 AM, John Mieske wrote:
This is not fun to me.. and with people like John Ward telling me to
never reply to this group again is why I got tired of OpenSim and why I
decided its not worth my time to help with it any longer.

John

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Karen Palen <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    This is a learning process for all of us!

    Hopefully a relatively fun way to learn though :-)

    Karen


    On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Master_Mirage
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



        The point is that if you run "development" software for
        "production" you
        WILL have problems!

        One of the subtle differences between OpenSource development
        "closed source"
        development is that "there is no bottom to the rabbit hole"! You
        can change
        anything and run the most unstable "bleeding edge" software
        imaginable.

        Commercial ("closed source") software does not get released
        until much later
        in the design cycle. If OpenSim were "closed source" then likely
        V0.6.7
        would be "production" and V 0.6.8 would be "beta" - if indeed
        ANY of it was
        allowed outside the factory!

        Essentially the difference is that you get to make the choice
        and live with
        the results!

        If you are prepared for things a lot more subtle than the April
        1 pranks to
        go wrong then running the "head" revision helps the developers
        by testing
        the software in a realistic environment using "standard idiots"
        as uisers.

        If you are trying to build a virtual world and want to
        concentrate on
        getting stuff built and working "in world" then you should be
        using one of
        the release versions!

        Just because the nightly builds or "head" version doesn't break
        often does *
        not* mean that they won't break!

        The April 1 antics should serve as a reminder of this!

        Karen




        On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Master_Mirage
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

         >
         > Yah i remeber last year, got alot of ppl mad too. The problem
        wasent so
         > mutch
         > about the prank it was not knowing one would be played.
        Hopefully at least
         > this time grid ops are better informed than last time.
         > So in that way i have to say ty for the reminder.
         > Stick ppl was funny just happened in an un-expected time and way.
         > It was quickly un-done and as said allready check mantis on
        that day as
         > they
         > usualy allready have away to counter it if needed.
         > As far as If its right or wrong to do it. Ill avoid that
        topic lol.
        
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Well for me last year was a matter of not knowing what was
        beeing reffered
        too.
        It was at the same time as real virus threat was bbeing warrned
        about and me
        not knowing exactly what it was. Thought that thay were talking
        about a
        trick on OSG users or a joke just between devs ect..
        I never considered it would be done in the master svn code.
        When i saw that something was wrong, It became a series of
        things as i
        dident know and made the worst assumption and that my system had
        been hacked
        and nothing todo with the build.

        Anyway, For me it came down to just not knowing what was beeing
        reffered
        too.
        I really dident care about the prank its selph. At the same time
        there were
        some that seemed to be using it as an excuse to make alot of
        trouble. Im
        shure theres some that remeber that too.
        New ppl may be getting the wrong impression and dont know what
        scars there
        were from then.

        In hindsight (now that i know) its not a big deal and is done to
        have fun.
        It doset make it into tagged rev. it dosent harm data or have
        some black
        hidden stuff in it. Its just a joke and lives for one day in a
        dev. git
        build is all.

        The sky is not falling :)  Have some fun if its done at all this
        year.


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