Thanks A LOT, guys. Server is back to normal conditions, even faster!

        - thanks to your advices about the grid size and how it should not be 
harmful, I saved a lot of time, focusing on right things
        - thanks to your advices on mysql optimization, I get an increased 
speed of 400%
        - after eliminating these issues, I still got errors, but found easily, 
knowing where *not* to look ;-)

I found a small, little, mini-bikini difference between 0.7.2 and 0.7.3, which 
I didn't notice before (and I don't remember having read that, but I have read 
so much docs)

Robust.HG.ini.example in OS 0.7.2:
        SRV_ProfileServerURI = "http://127.0.0.1:8002/user";

Robust.HG.ini.example in OS 0.7.3:
        SRV_ProfileServerURI = "http://127.0.0.1:8002";

Woot! That was the missing link. I changed robust config according, and now 
it's running smoothly like before!

(So, there *was* a performance issue coming from the last update, but I didn't 
notice it before mysql began to suck!)


THANK YOU, YOU ROCK!


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Le 7 avr. 2012 à 13:54, Gudule Lapointe a écrit :

> I said
>> anyway, a db optimization shouldn't hurt
> 
> I'd better have broken my leg. Made a check & optimize & repair, optimized 
> my.conf and restarted mysqld. And now nearly all databases are corrupted.
> I know, this is off-topic. Just needed to grumble.
> 
> Thank you Mark Edward for the reference, it will be helpful, once I get my db 
> restored ;-)
> 
> 
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> Le 7 avr. 2012 à 09:01, M.E. Verhagen a écrit :
> 
>> maybe it helps when you optize your mysql: 
>> 
>> http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/mysqlperformance.htm
>> 
>> Op zaterdag 7 april 2012 schreef Gudule Lapointe ([email protected]) het 
>> volgende:
>> Thank you very much Justin for this detailed information.
>> 
>> Actually, the monitoring I made since a couple of days allowed me to 
>> eliminate a range of possible causes (including network, disk, machine 
>> overload, etc). My conclusion to focus on mysql performance is far more than 
>> an assumption, even if I didn't detailed my tests here.
>> 
>> The monitoring tools I have for mysql told me a range of causes of 
>> performance loose, including the index. But no precise indication on which 
>> database, with tables or which queries.
>> 
>> The explanations you gave confirm me that the size of the grid (and the 
>> database) should not be a problem -- in normal operating conditions.
>> So I am happy not to have to enter in the adventure to split databases right 
>> now.
>> 
>> I'll check now if something like db/index corruption is in the air (anyway, 
>> a db optimization shouldn't hurt). And still investigating on other possible 
>> causes.
>> 
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>> Le 7 avr. 2012 à 03:10, Justin Clark-Casey a écrit :
>> 
>>> On 06/04/12 18:53, Gudule Lapointe wrote:
>>>> I experience lot of timeout problems. I checked every side of the 
>>>> installation, and I suspect the database to be the
>>>> bottleneck.
>>>> 
>>>> The main question is: how can I clean up the database? Detail description 
>>>> below…
>>>> Any advice on any part of the problem is welcome.
>>> 
>>> From the data below I'm quite surprised you're having problems - this is 
>>> not a particularly large grid.  I strongly recommend actually measuring 
>>> performance where you can and finding the actual bottleneck, rather than 
>>> assuming that certain things are issues.  You might find that the issue is 
>>> not actually OpenSimulator related (e.g. a network issue, machine 
>>> overloaded for other reasons, etc).  In particular, I don't think 2.3Gb is 
>>> all that large for an asset database.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I'm not aware of tools to measure things such as inventory 
>>> service response, though in principle they would not be all that hard to 
>>> write.
>>> 
>>> pCampbot [1] can do some simulator testing where many libomv clients are 
>>> logged onto a simulator at once, though some of its actions are currently 
>>> highly unrealistic (e.g. logging in 20 bots simultaneously).
>>> 
>>> I've written up some grid performance discussion and possible solutions at 
>>> [1].  However, this only covers the issues I've personally seen.  In 
>>> general, scaling a grid is very hard and largely a step into an evolving 
>>> unknown.  It's also the hardest area to work in since diaganosing issues is 
>>> very time consuming (and not always something I have the time to help with, 
>>> unfortunately, not least because it's an area I'm still learning about).  
>>> But again, I don't think your grid numbers are actually high enough to 
>>> encounter the more complex issues.
>>> 
>>> More comments below.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Current setup comes from an initial test installation, and changed a lot 
>>>> before going to prod (versions changes, server
>>>> changes, oar save and load, etc).
>>>> However it has been working quite fine for more than 3 months, since 
>>>> latest big change.
>>>> 
>>>> - version: 0.7.3-post-fixes
>>>> - robust server, with 7 simulators, for a total of 56 regions
>>>> - From these region, I would say 15 à 20 are really active, others are 
>>>> placeholders, without content.
>>>> - About 20 registered users. Usually 3 or 4 concurrent users
>>>> - Each region has it's own mysql database, and robust uses a single one.
>>>> 
>>>> Since around 5 days, I get continuous timeout, access to inventory or 
>>>> assets errors and sometimes region crashes.
>>>> 
>>>> Though they were no recent change on the set up when the problems began. 
>>>> Hence my suspicions on the database.
>>>> 
>>>> (CPU, memory and disk usage don't show any overload)
>>>> 
>>>> Regions database are fairly light (~20MB)
>>>> Robust database is huge: 2.6 GB
>>>> I am not sure such a big database is common for setup like ours.
>>> 
>>> This is not a very unusual size and I don't think that it's a problem to be 
>>> honest.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So it looks obvious that I should clean up the database, which may contain 
>>>> a lot of outdated items.
>>>> Fair enough. How can I do?
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to know
>>>> - which tables I can empty without losses, at all
>>> 
>>> Nothing that would make any significant difference compared to 
>>> deleting/deduplicating assets.  There are some (a) suggestion for asset 
>>> dedupe at [1].  Asset deletion is a hard problem, though I think there 
>>> might be some future stuff that can be done by deleting/retiring assets 
>>> that haven't been accessed for a very, very long time.
>>> 
>>>> - which tables I can empty after having made a successful oar save of my 
>>>> regions
>>> 
>>> You could empty the region database, naturally.  I'm assuming you're not 
>>> storing all region and service data in a single database.  Even then there 
>>> is a list of region tables on the wiki.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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