We added a patch to the Mantis. - Server tries to send Pacific Time daylight saving status to the client, whatever timezone the system is. - If failed, falls back to system time zone and logs a warning. - It does not affect client-side UTC settings like in Imprudence
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5972 I strongly think this is the way to go until custom timezone is actually implemented. And i'd love it to be implemented. -- http://www.speculoos.net/ secondlife://speculoos.net:8002/ Speculoos, the belgian cookie-flavored metaverse Le 19 avr. 2012 à 01:09, Gudule Lapointe a écrit : > My tests and the examples (including OSGrid time) show that the server DO > control DST setting, while it does not control the other part of the timezone. > > And this is why it's a bug. If the client is expecting pacific time and > relies on the server for DST, DST has to be calculated on Paciifc Time > > The "decision" of using UTC is cool, but it has absolutely no effect. I don't > know a grid where UTC is the in-world time. Imprudence implements it on the > client-side only. > > So the server must definitively send the info the client is expecting. Until > management of a server-side custom timezone is implemented. > > Sending a Hong Kong daylight saving to a client showing Los Angeles time has > absolutely no sense. > > > -- > http://www.speculoos.net/ > secondlife://speculoos.net:8002/ > Speculoos, the belgian cookie-flavored metaverse > > Le 19 avr. 2012 à 01:03, Robert Klein a écrit : > >> We decided a long time ago to settle on UTC as the default timezone and it >> looks like the Imprudence team added the support to their viewer. Here is >> the link to the wiki http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Universal_Time_in_OpenSim >> >> -Robert >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://opensim-users.2152040.n2.nabble.com/Timezone-tp7477565p7478969.html >> Sent from the opensim-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> >> Le 19 avr. 2012 à 00:51, Justin Clark-Casey a écrit : >> >>> I can't remember the details but I think this is because it's not something >>> the server can control - the stock viewers are hardcoded to pacific time >>> even if they might make some change for daylight savings. >>> >>> The imprudence guys implemented another mechanism to change the timezone, I >>> think. >>> >>> On 18/04/12 22:31, Fleep Tuque wrote: >>>> I'm not sure why timezone isn't a configurable option in opensim.ini? My >>>> campus grid users don't care about UTC or any >>>> other time zone than our own and what they most need to know is when their >>>> class meets. >>>> >>>> - Chris/Fleep >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque) >>>> Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM) >>>> UCIT Instructional & Research Computing >>>> University of Cincinnati >>>> 406A Zimmer Hall >>>> 315 College Drive >>>> PO BOX 210088 >>>> Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088 >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> (513) 556-3018 >>>> >>>> http://ucsim.uc.edu >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Olivier van Helden >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If it's not a feature, it's a bug! >>>> >>>> I made more extensive tests and my conclusion is: >>>> >>>> - If I set my server on whatever timezone not using DST, viewer would >>>> show PST in anycase >>>> - If i set it to whatever timezone using DST, viewer would show PDT if >>>> applicable, PST otherwise (SL behaviour) >>>> >>>> This is insane: we use a local setting for daylight savings, and a >>>> global hardcoded setting for the hour >>>> >>>> This probably means even those using DST will not change at the same >>>> time, depending on which timezone they have. >>>> >>>> I filled a Mantis about this >>>> http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5972 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 18 avr. 2012 à 18:24, Gudule Lapointe a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Not totally exact, Vanish. My tests proved that time info is somewhat >>>>> send by the server: >>>>> >>>>> - On Singularity AND Second Life viewer (where timezone was supposed >>>>> to be hard-coded), it shows PDT in my grid, >>>>> and PST in OSGrid >>>>> -> So, times is cleary sent by the server. For viewers listening to >>>>> that info. >>>>> - Imprudence has a setting to choose between PSD/PDT or GMT. If set to >>>>> PST/PDT, i still get the same difference >>>>> between OSGrid and mine >>>>> -> fallback to same conclusion (and imprudence should probably replace >>>>> "PST/PDT" by "in-world time" or something >>>>> like that) >>>>> - If I HG to another grid, my viewer keeps the time from my login grid >>>>> -> time is set at login time, depending on login server settings >>>>> - In the source code I see at some place that the daylight setting is >>>>> evaluated. >>>>> -> maybe only the use of DST can be set on server >>>>> >>>>> Same question is still left: how? >>>>> -> maybe just because osgrid auth server runs on a machine where DST >>>>> is disabled? >>>>> >>>>> And it raise a second question: who should adjust this settings, me, >>>>> or OSGrid? >>>>> No kidding: I just checked in Second Life, and time is PDT now, there. >>>>> And I noticed several times that when we're in doubt, SL is often the >>>>> reference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> http://www.speculoos.net/ >>>>> secondlife://speculoos.net:8002/ >>>>> Speculoos, the belgian cookie-flavored metaverse >>>>> >>>>> Le 18 avr. 2012 à 17:50, Vanish a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> The time is a viewer service, and Imprudence is the only one I know >>>>>> that allows you to change the timezone to UTC >>>>>> (optionally) all others display PST (or "Second-Life-time", as it's >>>>>> come to be called). >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've looked at but not found a solution! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just noted: for a same instance of OpenSimulator (standalone), >>>>>>> Imprudence displays UTC time and Viewer 3 >>>>>>> displays PST. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GCI >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: Gudule Lapointe >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:36 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Opensim-users] Timezone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How can I setup grid or region time zone? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I noticed my grid is in PDT, while OSGrid for example is in PST. >>>>>>> While my server runs in CEST >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can't find settings for that anywhere… >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The Twilight’s Green Illuminate Beam, >>>>>> This Great ImBalance, that I’ve seen, >>>>>> That Trees Got Icy Branches and, >>>>>> The Good In Bad, That God I’ve Been. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://tgib.co.uk/ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Opensim-users mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Opensim-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Opensim-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Justin Clark-Casey (justincc) >>> http://justincc.org/blog >>> http://twitter.com/justincc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
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