Regarding 2, in grid mode one can enable a handler for creating users remotely [1]. This calls the same routines as "create user" on the robust console command line and so creates user entries and a user inventory. In 0.7.3.1, one can also set CreateDefaultAvatarEntries = true in the [UserAccountService] section of Robust.ini to create the minimum set of body parts and clothing necessary and the right appearance entries to get an avatar to display in viewer 2/3 (in viewer 1 one would see a Ruth even if there were no body parts or clothing).

This facilities is currently only available in grid mode and the avatar/body parts used are not configurable except by direct patching.

Unfortunately, this facility is not available in standalone mode. In standalone, one can call the create user command via RemoteAdmin [2] instead. This should still create a user entry and inventory but it is a different code path that also has facilities to create clothing entries by reading from an XML file. However, I don't know for sure how well this works right now with the various viewer combinations (I've never tried it, maybe someone can enlighten me).

In the future, the paths need to be brought together and provide the same 
configurability.

I suspect all other modules either set data via calling services (e.g. useraccounts, inventory) or even hit the database directly.

[1] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/UserManipulation
[2] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/RemoteAdmin

On 08/06/12 16:07, Chris Stevens wrote:
Thanks for the advice Chris.

Discovered the answer to 1) Was that I hadn't changed the SQL .dll to the diva 
one (this resolved that problem neatly).

2) Yeah this is proving a bit of a bugbear... the nearest we've found is 
building a batch file form a spreadsheet (not
ideal); though definitely something that should be a feature.

3) Will take a look!

Thanks again.

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    Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 12:25:18 +0100
    From: Chris Stevens <[email protected] 
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    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: [Opensim-users] Diva WiFi Query and Groups Modules
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    Three queries really.

    1) I have a Robust Opensim install (which works fine), with Diva WIFI. I am
    able to add users using WiFi (they show up in the database and can be
    logged in)... but the auto-update of how many users/regions in WiFi doesn't
    work, and neither does user search. It's like WiFi can't find my database.
    Can provide copies of my robust.ini and grid_common.ini if need be, but
    would rather ask if there is something obvious I am missing in my wifi
    config.

    2) Is there any way to do bulk upload of users into the database without
    creating a custom app? I was looking at extending WiFi but that appears to
    be a non-starter given the way it's implemented. Does anyone know if I
    would need to modify more than the user's table to get stuff set up
    properly?

    3) Anyone familiar with implementing group modules and what functionality
    they give? Have been looking into Simian and the xmlrpc versions... but not
    having much luck.

    Regards,
    Chris.

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    On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:52 AM, InuYasha Meiji <[email protected] 
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     > Her computer came with a OEM disc ?of Vista, and when her mobo went bad 
and
     > was replaced the OEN thinks we are trying to use it on a new machine. ?We
     > found the free trial Windows 8. ?I think the RP release. ?It runs but we 
do
     > hate that stupif interface.

    well as far as the OEM is concerned you did replace it with a new machine
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    Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 09:39:44 -0400
    From: Fleep Tuque <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Diva WiFi Query and Groups Modules
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    Hi Chris,

    1)  When you say the auto-update of users/regions doesn't work, do you mean
    on the splash screen when users log in or somewhere else?

    If the former, make sure that you added the section from the
    wifi.ini.example to your [DatabaseService] section in the Robust.HG.ini
    file - it looks like this:

    [DatabaseService]
        ; If you want Wifi to use some advanced options, like displaying
    ; the number of users online on the splash page, change this to
    ; Diva.Data.MySQL.dll. It is 100% compatible with OpenSim's
        StorageProvider = "OpenSim.Data.MySQL.dll"
        ConnectionString = "Data Source=localhost;Database=opensim;User
    ID=opensim;Password=opensim123;"

    2)  I suspect that someone has developed ways to do this, but I haven't
    figure out how yet and would also be interested in learning more about bulk
    account creations.

    3)  I highly recommend Mimetic Core's Opensim Services bundle, which
    includes Groups, Offline IMs, Profiles, and Search functionality.  (And
    darn it again I will say those things should all be bundled with stock
    Opensim!)

    http://opensim.odosys.net/files/

    There are versions of 0.7.2 and 0.7.3 available, and if you want examples
    of how I installed it, take a look at http://fleep.wikispaces.com under the
    11/19/11 entry (search the page).

    Good luck!

    - Chris/Fleep


    Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)
    Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM)
    UCIT Instructional & Research Computing
    University of Cincinnati
    406A Zimmer Hall
    315 College Drive
    PO BOX 210088
    Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    (513) 556-3018 <tel:%28513%29%20556-3018>

    http://ucsim.uc.edu

    On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Chris Stevens <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

     > Three queries really.
     >
     > 1) I have a Robust Opensim install (which works fine), with Diva WIFI. I
     > am able to add users using WiFi (they show up in the database and can be
     > logged in)... but the auto-update of how many users/regions in WiFi 
doesn't
     > work, and neither does user search. It's like WiFi can't find my 
database.
     > Can provide copies of my robust.ini and grid_common.ini if need be, but
     > would rather ask if there is something obvious I am missing in my wifi
     > config.
     >
     > 2) Is there any way to do bulk upload of users into the database without
     > creating a custom app? I was looking at extending WiFi but that appears 
to
     > be a non-starter given the way it's implemented. Does anyone know if I
     > would need to modify more than the user's table to get stuff set up
     > properly?
     >
     > 3) Anyone familiar with implementing group modules and what functionality
     > they give? Have been looking into Simian and the xmlrpc versions... but 
not
     > having much luck.
     >
     > Regards,
     > Chris.
     >
     > --
     > Chris Stevens
     > Lead Programmer
     > Daden Limited
     >
     > t: +44 (0)121 250 5678 <tel:%2B44%20%280%29121%20250%205678>
     > e: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
     > w: www.daden.co.uk <http://www.daden.co.uk>
     > skype: christopher.michael.stevens
     > sl: http://www.slurl.com/secondlife/daden%20prime/160/184/26
     > sl IM: Chris Taselian
     >
     > Daden specialise in immersive learning & training systems, built
     > environment visualisations, and creating interactive virtual 
personalities
     > (chatbots).
     >
     > Daden are a Linden Lab Gold Solution Provider for Second Life.
     >
     >
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    Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 09:41:54 -0400
    From: Fleep Tuque <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Diva WiFi Query and Groups Modules
    Message-ID:
    <CAG6z+U6h+==kGt2j=evz_tbm8rcxwy0wbxzqw2o6_mx1wkp...@mail.gmail.com
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    Oops sorry, that link to my changelog should be
    http://fleep.wikispaces.com/FleepGrid for examples.  I also have copies of
    my opensim.ini and robust.HG.ini files there as well, in case that might be
    helpful.

    - Fleep


    Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)
    Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM)
    UCIT Instructional & Research Computing
    University of Cincinnati
    406A Zimmer Hall
    315 College Drive
    PO BOX 210088
    Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    (513) 556-3018 <tel:%28513%29%20556-3018>

    http://ucsim.uc.edu

    On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Fleep Tuque <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

     > Hi Chris,
     >
     > 1)  When you say the auto-update of users/regions doesn't work, do you
     > mean on the splash screen when users log in or somewhere else?
     >
     > If the former, make sure that you added the section from the
     > wifi.ini.example to your [DatabaseService] section in the Robust.HG.ini
     > file - it looks like this:
     >
     > [DatabaseService]
     >     ; If you want Wifi to use some advanced options, like displaying
     > ; the number of users online on the splash page, change this to
     >  ; Diva.Data.MySQL.dll. It is 100% compatible with OpenSim's
     >     StorageProvider = "OpenSim.Data.MySQL.dll"
     >     ConnectionString = "Data Source=localhost;Database=opensim;User
     > ID=opensim;Password=opensim123;"
     >
     > 2)  I suspect that someone has developed ways to do this, but I haven't
     > figure out how yet and would also be interested in learning more about 
bulk
     > account creations.
     >
     > 3)  I highly recommend Mimetic Core's Opensim Services bundle, which
     > includes Groups, Offline IMs, Profiles, and Search functionality.  (And
     > darn it again I will say those things should all be bundled with stock
     > Opensim!)
     >
     > http://opensim.odosys.net/files/
     >
     > There are versions of 0.7.2 and 0.7.3 available, and if you want examples
     > of how I installed it, take a look at http://fleep.wikispaces.com under
     > the 11/19/11 entry (search the page).
     >
     > Good luck!
     >
     > - Chris/Fleep
     >
     >
     > Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)
     > Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM)
     > UCIT Instructional & Research Computing
     > University of Cincinnati
     > 406A Zimmer Hall
     > 315 College Drive
     > PO BOX 210088
     > Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
     > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
     > (513) 556-3018 <tel:%28513%29%20556-3018>
     >
     > http://ucsim.uc.edu
     >
     > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Chris Stevens <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
     >
     >> Three queries really.
     >>
     >> 1) I have a Robust Opensim install (which works fine), with Diva WIFI. I
     >> am able to add users using WiFi (they show up in the database and can be
     >> logged in)... but the auto-update of how many users/regions in WiFi 
doesn't
     >> work, and neither does user search. It's like WiFi can't find my 
database.
     >> Can provide copies of my robust.ini and grid_common.ini if need be, but
     >> would rather ask if there is something obvious I am missing in my wifi
     >> config.
     >>
     >> 2) Is there any way to do bulk upload of users into the database without
     >> creating a custom app? I was looking at extending WiFi but that appears 
to
     >> be a non-starter given the way it's implemented. Does anyone know if I
     >> would need to modify more than the user's table to get stuff set up
     >> properly?
     >>
     >> 3) Anyone familiar with implementing group modules and what 
functionality
     >> they give? Have been looking into Simian and the xmlrpc versions... but 
not
     >> having much luck.
     >>
     >> Regards,
     >> Chris.
     >>
     >> --
     >> Chris Stevens
     >> Lead Programmer
     >> Daden Limited
     >>
     >> t: +44 (0)121 250 5678 <tel:%2B44%20%280%29121%20250%205678>
     >> e: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
     >> w: www.daden.co.uk <http://www.daden.co.uk>
     >> skype: christopher.michael.stevens
     >> sl: http://www.slurl.com/secondlife/daden%20prime/160/184/26
     >> sl IM: Chris Taselian
     >>
     >> Daden specialise in immersive learning & training systems, built
     >> environment visualisations, and creating interactive virtual 
personalities
     >> (chatbots).
     >>
     >> Daden are a Linden Lab Gold Solution Provider for Second Life.
     >>
     >>
     >> _______________________________________________
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