I have all three viewers -- Kokua, Firestorm, and Singularity -- loaded on my computer and seem to use all three. Still, Singularity has two unique features I like a lot -- (1) the retention/rendering of the world map function even after several hypergrid jumps; and (2) the [new] ability to convert prim builds into a dae file format!
Again, I like all three but Singularity has a couple of features I happen to have a use for now. Best, Kay On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Fleep Tuque <[email protected]> wrote: > One other note I wanted to add to this thread, my own personal preference > prior to working with the conference was Imprudence/Kokua. Particularly > Imprudence because it is such a stable workhorse! So when the planning > team started talking about other viewers, I told them they'd pry Imp out of > my cold dead avatar hands. ;) > > Fortunately, I discovered that Singularity is as stable for me crash-wise > as Imprudence was, even on my older laptop, and as much as I <3 Imprudence > (and I still do!), I've also had to come to terms with the fact that > without Mesh and MOAP support, Imprudence is pretty limited in viewing all > of the great new mesh and media content people are creating. > > So I just wanted to say on a personal note, I definitely understand how > strong our attachment can become to the tools we use, because I felt the > same way. However, Imprudence just won't work for the conference since our > presenters will be using MOAP and many components in the conference builds > use mesh for greater detail and rendering efficiency. So if there are any > other Imprudence hold-outs out there, I'd encourage you to give the OSCC > Viewer a try. > > http://conference.opensimulator.org/2013/login-info/ > > Sincerely, > > - Chris/Fleep > > > Chris M. Collins (Avatar: Fleep Tuque) > Vice President, AvaCon, Inc. > 275 Winthrop Street > PO Box 618 > Rehoboth, MA 02769-1819 > (774) 654-0010 > [email protected] > http://avacon.org > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Fleep Tuque <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Regarding a "recommended" viewer for the OpenSimulator Community >> Conference, we are certainly not saying that other viewers aren't great to >> use - many of them are! And we will have a panel of viewer developers in >> the Developers & Opensource track as part of the conference program, >> including Firestorm and Kokua, so we'd encourage you to attend that session >> to learn more about the various options available. >> >> However, we have many newbies and people who don't have much experience >> with OpenSimulator or third party viewers in general planning to attend the >> event, so we needed to pick one viewer to document instructions and >> settings in order to make the event as accessible as possible to people who >> aren't "power users". We also wanted to make sure our (tirelessly >> hardworking) volunteer team could focus on supporting one known viewer >> rather than trying to learn all the ins and outs of many viewers. >> >> Singularity was chosen because it supports Mesh and MOAP, and because the >> viewer interface is relatively uncluttered. It may be a judgement call, >> but the conference planning team reviewed all of the viewers that support >> Mesh and MOAP, tested them for performance, and we made a choice based on >> what we felt would offer the best, least confusing option to the least >> experienced user. >> I'm sure you can appreciate that it just simply wouldn't be feasible for >> us to try to support every viewer out there. >> >> We know that many experienced OpenSimulator users have their own >> preferred viewer - and that's fine! We're providing basic instructions and >> connection details for other viewers as well, so anyone who feels >> comfortable using a different viewer can do so, but we expect those folks >> to need a lot less hand holding in general. So long as the viewer supports >> Mesh and MOAP, it should work great for the conference, and we encourage >> experienced users to use whatever viewer they are most comfortable with - >> it's just that we can only offer support for the one viewer we've tested, >> documented, and that our volunteer team has trained on. >> >> I think it's a strength of the OpenSimulator ecosystem that we have so >> many viewers to choose from, and though we've chosen one viewer to >> recommend for the conference, that is not meant to imply in any way that >> other viewers aren't also good. It's simply the logistics of trying to >> support hundreds of users with varying degrees of experience. >> >> I hope that clarifies things a bit! >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Chris/Fleep >> >> >> Chris M. Collins (Avatar: Fleep Tuque) >> Vice President, AvaCon, Inc. >> 275 Winthrop Street >> PO Box 618 >> Rehoboth, MA 02769-1819 >> (774) 654-0010 >> [email protected] >> http://avacon.org >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Mike Chase < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 20:03 -0400, Dr Ramesh Ramloll wrote: >>> > Hello there, >>> > I am wondering why singularity is a better viewer than firestorm. I >>> > suppose it is because I see the opensimcc is recommending to use it. >>> > Ive never used singularity. Please share your thoughts. Is the fps for >>> > e.g. significantly better, shadow rendering etc... etc.. I am always >>> > willing to learn more. >>> > Thank you. >>> > Ramesh >>> > >>> >>> They're not better, or worse, just different. Firestorm has some >>> advantages as does Singularity. It's really a matter of preference. >>> Sort of a shame a specific viewer was "recommended" for the conference >>> if it was. I don't see a good reason for it (other than singularity >>> added the conference grid but its a small matter of doing that). >>> >>> For the record Melanie is a commit-er on the Singularity project so she >>> might be a tad biased. Just saying. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Opensim-users mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > --
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