+1 to eduardo. Profile view is meant to showcase user's interest/profiles to
user and visitors.
It's not a replica of canvas view.

Our limits are large enough to allow you to publish tweets that the user
makes. I am assuming a reasonable user can do no more than 100 tweets a day.
The limits are large enough to allow you to update at this rate.

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Eduardo Rocha <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> IMHO, the users should go to canvas view for that.
>
> The scenario I see with profile changes (and we probably must face it)
> is that there is less room for application features on profile view,
> which actually can be a good thing, because we can choose simpler
> solutions and have less work :)
>
> On 19 maio, 15:33, gcb <[email protected]> wrote:
> > what about feed readers?
> >
> > What if my 1mi users want fresh items everytime someone reads his
> > profile?
> >
> > say I have an app that shows his twits.
> >
> > On May 19, 2:46 pm, Badaro <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > A couple more things that probably weren't very clear from my
> > > explanation:
> >
> > > - What defines *when* the data in the profile should be updated are
> > > the user's interactions with the application in the canvas. As he adds/
> > > rates more songs and artists and changes what his favorites are, the
> > > profile should be updated to reflect this.
> >
> > > - We probably will be using the JS API instead of REST/RPC for those
> > > updates, though I imagine the limits are the same.
> >
> > > Filipe Badaro
> >
> > > On May 19, 2:21 pm, Badaro <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > This is the development version of the profile, which is currently
> > > > using OS Templates with HttpRequest:
> http://sandbox.orkut.com/Main#AppInfo.aspx?appUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fbadaro...
> >
> > > > The live application is here:
> http://www.orkut.com.br/Main#AppInfo.aspx?appId=1086790722195
> >
> > > > We have not yet uploaded the OS Templates with HttpRequest version of
> > > > the profile to production, since we're still deciding if we should do
> > > > this right now, or wait until we modify the application to use
> > > > AppData.
> >
> > > > The profile intends to give the viewer a sample of the owner's
> musical
> > > > tastes, including some of his favorite artists and musics. It used to
> > > > include a lot of extra functionality, such as allowing the viewer to
> > > > preview and rate the songs displayed, but sadly this can't be done
> > > > with the more restricted environment of OS Templates.
> >
> > > > Currently, since we're using HttpRequest, we send a random set of the
> > > > owner's favorites on each visit, but after we change to AppData this
> > > > would no longer be possible, so we'd probably include either the most
> > > > recent changes, or the highest ranked ones.
> >
> > > > However, this data is bound to change often, in particular for new
> > > > users, since they have no data to begin with. It's certain that for
> > > > the first few uses of the application we'd be updating the AppData
> > > > constantly as we get more information about the user's tastes.
> >
> > > > That being said, I *don't* want to use AppData for this, however if
> > > > HttpRequest is removed I believe I won't have any other choice to
> > > > store the profile data.
> >
> > > > Filipe Badaro
> >
> > > > On May 19, 12:20 pm, Apurv Gupta <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > If you can tell us more, we can help you better. It may be entirely
> true
> > > > > that your app is better off using a different rendering model.
> >
> > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Apurv Gupta <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Filipe,
> > > > > > What's your use case for updating the AppData? What's your
> application url?
> >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -apurv
> >
> > > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Badaro <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> Can you tell us how much is that limit, and what happens when we
> hit
> > > > > >> it?
> >
> > > > > >> While this limit doesn't affect this migration process, after we
> > > > > >> migrate the profile information to AppData we will need to
> update it
> > > > > >> constantly to keep the user profile up-to-date.
> >
> > > > > >> Filipe Badaro
> >
> > > > > >> On May 19, 6:00 am, "Shishir Birmiwal (Google)"
> > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >> > Yes, there is a limit to the number of
> updatePersonAppDataRequests
> > > > > >> > that can be made per app per person, but given that you're
> going to
> > > > > >> > update for each person, you will not hit the limit.
> >
> > > > > >> > Cheers,
> > > > > >> > Shishir
> >
> > > > > >> > On May 18, 7:00 pm, Badaro <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > > --- Situation
> >
> > > > > >> > > I just found out through the forum that HttpRequest will be
> removed
> > > > > >> > > from OS Templates, and we'll be forced to migrate all
> profile data to
> > > > > >> > > the user AppData. The related thread is here:
> > > > > >>
> http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut/browse_thread/thread/...
> >
> > > > > >> > > However, I have an application with several hundred thousand
> users,
> > > > > >> > > where part of the data needed for the profile is stored in
> my servers.
> > > > > >> > > Therefore, I'll need to implement an automated procedure to
> migrate
> > > > > >> > > this data to Orkut, and I believe my only reasonable option
> is to use
> > > > > >> > > the REST/RPC API to upload this data.
> >
> > > > > >> > > -- Question
> >
> > > > > >> > > Is there a limit to the number of requests that can be made
> for one
> > > > > >> > > application? More specifically, I'm talking about the
> > > > > >> > > OpenSocialClient.newUpdatePersonAppDataRequest call.
> >
>

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