06-11-2008 MEETING MINUTES
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Co-Chair(s):      
        Richard Matthews:       YES   
        Tim Marsland:           no    

ATTENDEES - Members: (5 active members)           
        Kais Belgaied:          no  
        James Carlson:          no  (on sabbatical)  
        Mark Carlson:           YES  
        Garrett D'Amore:        YES  
        Darren Moffat:          no  (on sabbatical)       
        Joseph Kowalski:        no  (on sabbatical) 
        Glenn Skinner:          YES 
        Bill Sommerfeld:        no  (on sabbatical)  
        Gary Winiger:           no  (on sabbatical)  
        
                        
STAFF - John Plocher:           YES  
        Aarti Pai (PM):         YES   

ATTENDEES - Interns:  
        Frank Che               YES  
        David Chieu             no  
        Don Cragun:             YES   
        Charles Debardeleben:   YES   
        Peter Dennis:           no   
        James Falkner:          no (on sabbatical)  
        Daniel Hain:            YES  
        Michael Haines:         no  
        Alan Hargreaves:        no    
        Phil Harman:            no  
        Cecilia Hu:             no  
        Wyllys Ingersoll:       no  
        Paul Lee:               no      
        Calum Mackay:           no   
        Alec Muffett:           no (on sabbatical)  
        Darren Reed:            no   
        Dean Roehrich           no       
        Sebastien Roy:          YES       
        Ienup Sung:             no  
        Brian Utterback:        no              

        Mark Martin             YES (Non-Sun)  

Guests: Walker, Roland Mainz  


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MEETING SUMMARY:  
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AGENDA  
06/11/2008 (Tim Out)  
    10:00-10:30 Open ARC Business (use open dial in above)  
                Discussion: Switch SPARC GNU coreutils+bash from 32 to 64biti  
                    (2008/351)  
                Submitter: Roland Mainz  
                Owner: John Plocher  
                Status: waiting fast-track 06/06/2008  
                Exposure: open  

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Case Anchors:   
There aren't any case reviews this week.  
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Fast Tracks:  
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 Case (Timeout) Exposure Title  
approved                        2008/340 (05/29/08) open     ejabberd instant 
messaging server  
approved (with updated spec)    2008/344 (06/03/08) open     ksh93 Integration  
 
                                                Update 1 Amendments 1  
approved    2008/358 (06/10/08) open     removal of kadm5.keytab  
approved    2008/364 (06/12/08) open     Integrate Snack into Solaris  
approved    2008/368 (06/16/08) open     Add timeradd() and timersub() to 
<sys/time.h>.  
approved    2008/369 (06/13/08) open     Stunnel  
let run     2008/370 (06/17/08) open     sudo  

Other
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Owner Needed: Multidata Technology(LRO Implementation)  
   Refer to email thread from frd at chelsio.com on arc-discuss at 
opensolaris.org  
        -2008/070 not to be moved into open. Others can be moved into 
OpenSolaris.  
        -need someone to do the work, ie update IAM, clean up the docs for 
exposing etc.  
        -Sebastian to be the owner.  

Next Meeting  
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Next Meeting     - Canceled  
July 2nd Meeting - Canceled  


Discussion: Switch SPARC GNU coreutils+bash from 32 to 64biti (2008/351)  
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        Submitter: Roland Mainz  
        Owner: John Plocher  
        Status: waiting fast-track 06/06/2008  
        Exposure: open  

For most open source, it has to run on 64-bit machines.  
The ON code-base was never implemented to 64-bit machines.  
Original case was to deliver everything in 64 bit version and 32 bit version.  


-Taking any utility and making it 64-bit clean by making compilation changes  
is a no-brainer.  
-Big Rules should not result in boil the ocean. Changes should be incremental,  
as there is a lot of stuff in ON that won't work on 64-bit machines.  
-System architecture to drive towards is that all code is 64-bit clean.   
The expectation is that project deliver 64-bit code.   
-64 bit kernels are capable of running 32 bit binaries.  
-32 bit will need continued supported for some time .  


Statement of future direction:  
AI: John to draft a paragraph in opinion to state:   
System architecture to drive towards is that all code is 64-bit clean.  
If they are not, we need to understand why they are not 64-bit clean.  
There may be exceptions for research based work.  

Primary principle  
-Generate both 64 bit and 32 bit code for components.  
PAC advice to consider what to do for components that only support  
32 bit systems.  

Project teams to go to C-Team for non-architecture related items.  
C-team should make a rule to:  
        never make anything worse with respect to 64-bit cleanliness.  

John Plocher to draft opinion.   
-No TCR, TCAs.  
-Garrett to write a paragraph / advice to PAC.  
-Vote after the opinion is drafted.
 
 
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