Joseph Kowalski wrote:
> Perhaps some view the unspecific reference of "one member" as making 
> this OK.  I don't. 

In the whole email trail, this was one of the most succinct descriptions
of the issue you were objecting to - as well as what seems to be some
rationale for why the project faced such strong opposition from the ARC.

 > I would welcome any comments, private or public, from this audience
 > as how they react to private conversations

I wasn't aware that this message was intended to be confidential.  As
far as I knew, it was ARC related email pertaining to this case, sent
to the external-to-Sun project submitter - and thus to me.  I didn't
really look at the mail headers.

This mail (and the thread it was from) played a /very large/ role in
the project team's poor perception of Sun and the ARC process for this
case, and (colorful as it was) did a good job of characterizing why you
objected to this case.


The only other messages that touched on this were:

> If this "just a c-team issue", who gets to make this "product 
> decision"?  I can buy that it might not be the ARC, but who? 
> Roland and an advocate? If Roland can just integrate "coreutils
> should be 64-bits", can I almost immediately integrate "coreutils
> should be 32-bits"? 

or

> Its the switch.  You nor I have access to that switch.  I'm 
> just trying to figure out who has access to that switch. 

and

> I finally see the need for an opinion.  Its a formal way to tell
> the  c-team that they should to cast a *very* suspect eye at
> the "coreutils + bash" integration request.  Nothing wrong with
> it, there just isn't anybody "at the switch".  They should (IMHO)
> place it on hold until somebody is "at the switch".

Not nearly as cut and dried.  I admit, I may have missed a better
summary in the 100+ messages in the mail log.

As I said, this is a draft opinion.  I welcome replacement text for
this section if you would care to provide it.

   -John (now really on vacation and out of email range...)


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