On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 01:06:43PM -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote:
> >If we can provide enough of an environment in /usr/bin that having it in
> >your PATH (and you generally would, no matter what you did with your dot
> >files) gets you a fairly complete environment, then that reduces the
> >need for complex PATH management.
> >  

[Is there any point to continuing this sub-thread given that the issue
has already been decided?  As James said, you could file an appeal.]

> That's fine as long as the environment you provide is the one the users 
> want. By front loading the environment with basicallyy everything, 
> you're denying the user or the admin the ability to override your 
> default environment.

A default environment that makes 90% of users/developers happy and
provides the remaining 10% with ways to override the environment so it
is more similar to XPG4, XPG6, BSD, Linux, whatever, is worth having.

> It stops being a 'default' environment, and becomes the only environment.

No.  It asymptotically approaches "only environment" status as people
stop creating conflicts and the volume of non-conflicts dwarfs
conflicts.

Nico
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