Peter Memishian wrote:

> > >We do have it for setsockopt().  It affects unicast traffic.
> >  
> > Is there any dependency between IP_BROADCAST_TTL and
> > SO_BROADCAST?
>
>Given that SO_BROADCAST doesn't actually seem to do anything on Solaris
>(other than retrieve the value it was set to), there's no interaction
>today.  In theory, one would have to enable SO_BROADCAST before being
>able to send packets that IP_BROADCAST_TTL would apply to.
>  
>

So there is no intention to change the way things are today?


> > FWIW, this behaviour, of IP_TTL vs IP_BROADCAST_TTL vs
> > IP_MULTICAST_TTL is going to differ from other platforms,
> > increasing the difficulty of porting applications to/from Solaris.
> > Whereas IP_MULTICAST_TTL seems to be common across
> > the board, as to IP_TTL, IP_BROADCAST_TTL is not and in
> > its place, IP_TTL is used.  What benefit do we (Solaris and
> > OpenSolaris) gain by being architecturally different in this
> > to both BSD and Linux?
> >
> > Or in other words, why shouldn't we just fix IP_TTL to apply
> > to both unicast and broadcast packets (but not multicast)
> > like everyone else?
>
>Have you verified the behavior on the various BSDs and Linux?  According
>to the Linux documentation I've seen, IP_TTL would also apply to multicast
>packets,
>

The source code disagrees with the documentation.

>and looking at the FreeBSD source's ip_output(), it looks like
>e.g. sending to 255.255.255.255 always sends with a TTL of 1 (regardless
>of IP_TTL), and that is precisely the case that's of interest to the DHCP
>client here.
>  
>

Not all of them exhibit this behaviour and only FreeBSD
ditinguishes between 255.255.255.255 and other broadcast
addresses.


>Regardless, neither IP_TTL nor the proposed IP_BROADCAST_TTL are
>documented interfaces nor does this case propose to make them such, so if
>someone finds a grand unifying plan across the various Unices here and
>wants to implement it, this case certainly doesn't stand in their way.
>  
>

Given that this design has a very narrow scope in mind, it would
be beneficial if the name associated with the option was also
similarly narrow - something like IP_ALL_ONES_TTL - so as
to avoid confusion.

Darren


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