SYSTEM ARCHITECTURE COUNCIL
                           Platform Software ARC
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PSARC Regular Meeting time: Wednesdays 10:00-1:00pm in MPK17-3507.

                           05-27-2009 MEETING MINUTES
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Co-Chair(s):
         James Carlson:          Yes
         Tim Marsland:           no

ATTENDEES - Members: (6 active members)
         Kais Belgaied:          no
         Mark Carlson:           Yes
         Garrett D'Amore:        Yes
         Richard Matthews:       Yes
         Darren Moffat:          no  (on sabbatical)
         Sebastien Roy:          Yes
         Glenn Skinner:          no
         Bill Sommerfeld:        no  (on sabbatical)
         Gary Winiger:           Yes  (on sabbatical)

STAFF -
         Asa Romberger (PM):     Yes

ATTENDEES - Interns:
         Frank Che               no
         David Chieu             no
         Charles Debardeleben:   no
         Peter Dennis:           no
         James Falkner:          no (on sabbatical)
         Daniel Hain:            Yes
         Michael Haines:         no
         Alan Hargreaves:        no
         Phil Harman:            no
         Cecilia Hu:             no
         Wyllys Ingersoll:       no
         Alec Muffett:           no (on sabbatical)
         Darren Reed:            Yes
         Dean Roehrich           Yes
         Ienup Sung:             no
         Phi Tran                no
         Brian Utterback:        no
         James Walker            no

         Mark Martin             no (external)
         Don Cragun              Yes (external)
Guests:

-- GUESTS --
         Jan Setje-Eilers
         Richard Burridge
         Tim Haley
         Gerald Jelinek

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MEETING SUMMARY:
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AGENDA

     10:00-10:10 Open ARC Business (use open dial in above)
     10:10-10:55 Open Inception 2009/253 S10C
         Submitter:      Gerald Jelinek
         Owner:          Rick Matthews
         Intern:         Dean Roehrich
         Exposure:       open

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Case Anchors: <br>
<A HREF="#case1">S10C (2009/253)</A> <br>
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Fast Tracks:
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         Case (Timeout) Exposure Title
         2009/275 (05/27/09) open     Amendments to pconsole fast-track
                 approved
         2009/308 (05/20/09) open     Update BIND to 9.6.1
                 approved
         2009/312 (05/26/09) open     Configurable Boot Archive Updates
                 derailed
                 return with private interface on this case
                 open an new case for the uadmin 2 interface
         /315 (06/02/09) open     Update Perl to version 5.10.x
                 approved
         2009/317 (05/29/09) open     Solaris PPP/PPPoE Updates
                 approved
         2009/319 (06/01/09) open     MII & GMII Common Layer
                 approved
         2009/321 (06/03/09) open     audiovia97
                 approved



Inception:
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2009/253 Packet Capture for OpenSolaris


IAM
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Name:           S10C
Submitter:      Gerald Jelinek
Owner:          Rick Matthews
Intern:         Dean Roehrich
Status:         submitted
Exposure:       open

SUMMARY
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Use the BrandZ infrastructure to deliver a Solaris 10 (S10) brand for
Solaris.next (S.next).  This will be provided as an adoption and
compatibility aid to enable customers currently running S10 to easily
adopt S.next while also continuing to run their S10 software within
branded zones.  This allows the customer to rapidly switch over to
S.next, creating a win-win situation for Sun and its customers.


ISSUES
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  PSARC 2009/253:        S10C
  Submitter:     Gerald Jelinek
  Owner:         Rick Matthews
  Intern:                Dean Roehrich

  Issues for inception (05/27/2009):

  ged-1  As of build 115, SXCE/OpenSolaris/Nevada contain a new audio
         framework.  (PSARC 2008/318 Boomer) This framework has some
         potentially incompatible changes which will break certain
         applications -- particularly the desktop volume control 
applications.
         In Boomer we decided that this compatibility was not needed,
         since the desktop apps were being upgraded to the Boomer interfaces
         at the same time.   Is the compatibility here an issue for S10C?
         If so, how will it be addressed.

  jdc-1  What happens with lofs mounts in v2v?  Many people are using
         these to work around limitations in Zones -- for example,
         adding a writable /usr/local to an otherwise sparse root
         zone, adding a "global zone name" file, or sharing data
         between zones.

  jdc-2  What sorts of factors should the ARC consider when granting
         patch/micro release binding?  Are there specific areas where
         updates to the branding module will be needed?

         (One caution here is that some private interfaces, even those
         that cross the kernel/user barrier, are changed occasionally
         without ARC review.  Merely requiring the ARC to note this
         issue may not be sufficent to be 'safe'; restricting change
         will also be necessary.)

         (In the past, we've been saved by circumstance: there are very
         few backports to S9 or older, so even though "patch/micro"
         authorizes them, they don't happen, and haven't been
         considered in the past.  Without an enterprise OpenSolaris,
         S10 is currently different.)

  jdc-3  Meem's comments about the non-Crossbow projects (such as
         Clearview) that affect whole root zones will also need to be
         addressed in the commitment.

  gw-1   What is the list of S10ux "Features" that are not supported?
         You note zones and TX, and exclusive stacks.  Are there others?


THE NEXT STEP
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Return mid summer 2009 for an update


Next Meeting:
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06/03/2009
     10:00-10:10 Open ARC Business (use open dial in above)
     10:10-10:55 Open Inception 2009/306 Brussels II - ipadm and libipadm


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