Jane Chu wrote:
> Hi, Garrett,
>
> Garrett D'Amore wrote:
>> The case looks pretty good now, and I'm almost ready to issue a +1, 
>> but I have one question, which concerns the pm-capable attribute.  I 
>> think other HBAs might be using this property.  Has the project team 
>> verified that no other consumers exist?  Or if the 16-th bit is not 
>> set in the new mask value, does it behave in the old fashion?
> The improvement of the "pm-capable" property is backwards compatible 
> with all existing HBA drivers
> with-in and with-out ON.  If the 16-th bit is not set, it would behave 
> in the old fashion, that is, sd would
> skip checking the Log page 0Eh and honor the PM capability.  There are 
> existing HBAs that do not
> set bit 16, such as USB SCSI, 1394 SCSI.

(That was exactly my concern! :-)  With that, +1.

    - Garrett
>
> thanks,
> -jane
>
>
>>
>>    - Garrett
>>
>> Terry (Sarito) Whatley wrote:
>>> I'm restarting this case as a fast-track, timing out
>>> 7/1/09.
>>>
>>> The project team has removed all of the interfaces which
>>> do not have current consumers from this case.
>>> In particular the pm-* properties which described the
>>> attributes of the different power states, and the new
>>> argument "dip" to pm_trans_check(9F) are removed.
>>>
>>> The case now just brings the disk IO stack power
>>> management up to date with new transport types
>>> (particularly SATA).
>>>
>>> Below is a summary and some explanation to help make
>>> the case more obvious.
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> This case is now composed of 4 parts.
>>> 1. a property used to communicate between the transport layer
>>>    and the target driver code (sd) about what support the
>>>    device has for power management features,
>>>    eliminating the need for the target driver to know which
>>>    transport is being used  and which commands it supports.
>>> 2. extend pm_trans_check(9F) support to SATA devices
>>> 3. a tunable used to override information that disk/transport
>>>    HW might present;
>>> 4. a USCSI flag to allow power management to stop FMA from
>>>    bringing up a power managed disk to see if it is ok.
>>>
>>> Explanation
>>>
>>> 1. target-transport communication property (pm-capable)
>>>
>>>    The sd/scsa system is designed to allow the target driver (sd)
>>>    not to have to know about the details ofthe transport used to
>>>    control the drive (one of SCSI, SATA, SAS, FCAL, IEEEE-1394,
>>>    USB, etc.), and the transport driver not to have to know
>>>    the details of the target device.
>>>
>>>    Unfortunately, there are several different schemes for
>>>    identifying  and controlling the power states of a disk,
>>>    depending on the transport and the set of power states supported
>>>    by the disk, and to provide access to information about how many
>>>    power cycles the disk has experienced (so that they can be meted
>>>    out over the desired lifetime of the disk and not squandered
>>>    immediately upon putting the disk in service).
>>>
>>>    In particular, for control the current options are the
>>>    Start field of the Start Stop Unit command, and the
>>>    Power Condition field of the Start Stop Unit command.
>>>    For getting the start-stop history information, the options
>>>    are check or ignore log page 0Eh, and to expect (if not
>>>    ignored) for log page 0Eh to contain SMART attribute data
>>>    or SCSI native log page 0Eh information.
>>>
>>>    The pm-capable property is extended to communicate this
>>>    information to the target driver.
>>>
>>>    This information is needed to allow the sd driver to
>>>    support the existing autopm framework behavior on the new
>>>    transports.
>>>
>>>    This scheme was worked out by/in collaboration with the owners of
>>>    all of the drivers involved. While the specific values in
>>>    this property may not be obvious to those not familiar with the
>>>    detailed specs of the various transports, I submit that using
>>>    a property which already conveys related information to convey
>>>    this info rather than perturbing the scsa/sd interface is obvious.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. pm_trans_check change
>>>
>>>    The modification of pm_trans_check() allows for the slightly
>>>    different flavor of information (native SCSI vs. SMART)
>>>    provided by different transports to be used in making power
>>>    down decisions.
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. tunable
>>>
>>>    Sometimes the firmware is buggy and lies about the capabilities
>>>    of the device.  The "power-condition" tunable allows a way to
>>>    override the information presented by firmware for a specific
>>>    device identified by Product ID and Vendor ID.
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. USCSI_PMFAILFAST flag
>>>
>>>    There is a problem where an FMA disk health checking thread spins
>>>    up  disks periodically to test device status.  This flag allows
>>>    for the device driver to not spin up the device to get this
>>>    information.
>>>
>>> The full text of the new proposal is in the materials directory as
>>> "proposal".
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> sarito
>>>
>>
>


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